The Big Tottenham Sell-Off

Fair play to you. I hear this all the time about how Walcott is better than Bale without hearing any reasons for it. And then saying statistically he's superior without showing the stats.

I can understand the different systems argument though and why it might not work for those reasons but I don't really agree with them.

Don't be fooled by my name. It might suggest I'm biased to the one player but it's because I couldn't think of anything else.

 

Very true. Totally agree about nobody stepping up when it really really counts. After being 2-0 at City and how we got it back to 2-2 without playing particularly well I thought maybe things had changed. But then what happened next in that game was of huge significance I thought. There wasn't as much 'bottle' seen after that.

 

With Fabregas he would only go to them so pressuring Arsenal eventually paid off. Chelsea tried to pressure Levy to sell Modric and were point blank refused as each bid was rejected on receipt. Barcelona would be foolish to use the same tactic with Bale.

Really? Wilshere's better than Modric based on one full season in the Premier League?

VDV does get into the starting line up. In the Euro qualifiers VDV started 7 of the 10 matches, he was injured for 2 of the matches he wasn't in the first 11 for and came on at half-time in the other. "VDV in fact does not get into the starting line-up" why did you make that up? Oh and if you're going to pick rubbish Real Madrid players you could do better than picking Marcelo who is one of the finest left backs in the World. Pepe is a good player too, even if he is an utter psycho

 

Marcelo is an awful left back who reminds me of Clichy in a sense of the diabolical mistakes he makes, I dont know what youve been watching and Pepe is a clown who constantly gets sent off for stupid fouls look how many times he's been sent off against Barca alone.

 

Resorting to insults I never said Walcott had better stats, read my posts again please The stats show very little difference between the two which was the point I was getting at, some fans on hear including myself think Walcott is ineffective at that position and based on the stats which you can see that Bale is not a major improvement on Walcott and the fact that he would cost well over 30mill shows that he clearly is not worth it, how you can argue otherwise is beyond me.
And again if he was wanted by the cream of Europe then they would have got him by now, I don’t think he’s a bad player by any means but I don’t think he is technically good enough for a team like Barca. I haven’t heard Barca or Real come out and say they want Bale like Barca did with Cesc or Real did with Ronaldo. And next time don't resort to insulting me, I only gave my opinion on the matter. If you don’t like it then fine, but don’t insult me.

 

When he's actually fit..yes he could easily be one of the best midfielders in the league if he wasn’t so bloody injury prone, he has all the attributes of a class midfielder and his dribbling is among the best in our squad. Granted he’s not as a good a finisher than VDV but in my opinion he offers more to the team, VDV can be anonymous at times especially in some of the bigger games, we already have one relatively anonymous player in Walcott the last thing I would want is another in the spine of our team.

 

Diaby better than VDV?

I just lost half a cup of tea over my keyboard over that!!!

 

Glad you liked that but I really do think Diaby could be better than VDV if he could pick up a decent run of games he is often picked in the France squad when fit however I sadly dont think he will ever reach his true potential as he is so injury prone.

 

Well I'd much rather be in agreement with Roberto Carlos and Paolo Maldini than you

 

Fair enough if you think he's the best left back in the world then it must be true because thats what Maldini seems to think

 

Ashley has been best full back in the world since march

 

I suppose Altbouli has his own opinions, even though he is alone on all of them....

Concerning Diaby - could have, should have, would have. VDV - IS.

VDV - 11 goals, 7 assists

Diaby - ..........

 

FFS are people still talking about "Diaby's potential"? That would make a good user-name for this forum.

 

No, I cannot agree with this at all. Marcelo is good going forward but an awful defender. As for Pepe, he is poo, how he is playing for Real Madrid I don't know.

 

Ok whatever you say I know who I prefer and it obvious you prefer VDV, hopefully Diaby can have an injury free season so he can show his true potential and prove my point, however until he does this I can’t backup my claim so I’ll leave it there. As for the rest of what I said about Pepe and Marcello I stick by it as I have seen them play a number of times this season and I am un-impressed by them, Yid Vicious says he backs Maldini over me which is fair enough, however Maldini said he was the best left back in the world you say I am alone in All of my oppinion so your telling me that Marcello is the best left back in the world because I am sure there a few people here who would disagree with this statement.

I would put Santos above Marcello any day and my argument is backed by the Brazil national teams coach who picks Santos above Marcello, but I must be wrong because Lazarus and HotHead disagree with me and therefore I am alone in all of my opinions

 

For Once I agree with you, it seems i'm not completley alone in my oppinions then....

 

I think you are getting confused. I said you are making yourself look stupid by trying to compare Walcott to Bale, Bale is far better than Walcott and, only an imbecile would argue against it. You allude to this yourself by claiming Bale would cost £30m, Walcott wouldn't come close to that figure. I responded to someone else specifically about stats

The stats show that although Walcott plays further up than Bale he didn't create or score more goals than Bale who at times was deployed as a midfielder by Redknapp.

 

The problem is, you're going over the top to prove a point. Marcello is a quality left back, not quite as good as Cole overall, but who is? It's hard to gauge Santos as he's just started off, but so far he has been impressive going forward but quite dodgy at the back. He leaves far too many gaps at the back and isn't possessional very good yet. But it is early days.

As for Diaby, he really hasn't done much to warrant a serious comparison with VDV. Yes Diaby has potential but whats the point of this when he never plays? So far all i see is VDV banging in the goals and Diaby doing, well, nothing.

 

So I am making myself look stupid by comparing two players who can play the same positions and have similar stats I agree with you that Bale is better but you say he is far better which make you look stupid considering the stats you showed, there is not much between them and I personally dont think Bale would be nearly as effective at Arsenal as one of his main strenghts is his crossing which would be wasted considering we never seem to have someone in the box at the right time then again Walcott is very ineffective in that postion in my personal oppinion and I definatly think that we will need a replacement for him if we are to challenge for the league.

 

Going over the top for proving a point..really? and all the weaknesses you pointed out for Santos have been showed by Marcello in a slower and weaker league and I said I would leave the Diaby argument alone because as you said he is never fit so I can’t back up my claim, but this forum is about opinion and I stick by opinion that Diaby would be a far better player if he could stay fit. I remember people laughing off Van Persie as an injury prone striker who wasn’t as good as some of the Arsenal fans thought he was....I bet they are not thinking that anymore.