Ahaha! Touched a nerve did I! Anyone who truly believes we are out there fighting for anything but rich peoples interests is completely ****ing deluded! Whilst a lot of what goes on from insurgents is utterly deplorable, equally so is what some of the actions of the coalition forces carry out. ALL actions should be judged equally and in context not seen only through the eyes of the western media, I am sure the actions of the coalition forces are seen in an entirely different light to how they are often portrayed by our media, same actions and outcomes just a different context. Thanks for the compliment!
What a ridiculous comment,I was talking about all those young men prepared to give up their lives for someone else's cause and who are sick and/or disabled who carry on with their lives regardless of the difficulties that confront them. how footballers or any sports person can be classed in the same way is just nonsense.
Yes I did know that but the point I was making is that I get little satisfaction in winning that way and would rather play a more positive expansive game to win than to play for penalties from the outset which is what Chelsea had in mind.
Perhaps I made the point badly, of course there's not much courage in sport unless someone plays with a broken leg etc.... My point is that I don't think a lot of the wars going on can be classed as courageous acts. Yes if we were truly fighting for legitimate reasons I would have a different opinion, for instance if my country was under attack and people were fighting to preserve life that would be indeed courage. To be honest though this is exactly what insurgents or rebel fighters are doing, it's merely our cultural perspective that puts our position in a glorified light. Perhaps you are not aware that there are number of civilsed countries pushing for war crimes to be brought against Bush, Blair and the like? For me it's all about the reasons and justification for war, if they are just then indeed it is an act of courage to fight it, however if the motivation is entirely unjust(which I believe it is) then those fighting it can not be called courageous as naivety is not an excuse!
I don't think we played for penalties (have you seen our shoot outs record?!??!), we played with a view to defending well and nicking it on the counter. TBH winning it on pens was even sweeter in a way cos of the drama and when that Drogba pen got buried.... For a more expansive performance watch our home games v Napoli and Valencia when we scored 7 goals in all. Great to watch. Against Bayern and Barca we're not stupid enough to go toe to toe and get hammered hence why we're champions (plus some fortune too).
Well you Definately made the point badly. I don't see what a country's decision has anything to do with the soldiers facing death every day. I know that all wars are either political,religious or greed,or even all 3 .that,however,doesn't take away the bravery that the armed forces face every single day and to use the word courageous when talking about sport is just an insult.
I assumed you had more intelligence than you have, my mistake, I will obviously have to spell it out as you seem unable to make a connection by yourself. A)You are a soldier fighting to save the lives of innocent people who have done nothing wrong but have been invaded by another country, you signed up for exactly this reason, you are saving lives = Courageous! B) You are a soldier, perhaps joined up for valid reasons, perhaps not maybe you just wanted to travel a lot etc... you are deployed to a country where essentially you are helping to strip their assets or take control of a region, even perhaps to force them to come under the Central banking system. You are killing many innocent people, apparently there is a man in a cave who is bad so must be stopped! Or their is a man who may have WMD's probably bought from the very people whose side you are on in the past. The only people you kill are either innocent citizens or those fighting to preserve their country, you thought you were doing right, unfortunately the real justification was a lie = You are an accomplice and complicit in others guilt, ignorance is not a defence, especially when the info is widely out there anyway! If you can't understand still, I will try to dig out some Peter and Jane books for you to start with.
For me it's all about the reasons and justification for war, if they are just then indeed it is an act of courage to fight it, however if the motivation is entirely unjust(which I believe it is) then those fighting it can not be called courageous as naivety is not an excuse! Where did I (or the OP for that matter) "Justify" this d0gshit war? And if it wasn't for 'naive' soldiers, airman and sailors doing their duty we too would be living in a country that stones women to death for daring to teach and is fooking stoneage enough to blow up 3000 year old monuments because they're not Islamic. I'd gladly pull out ALL our troops (and doctors, teachers, architects, nurses, engineers and other volunteers) from that sh!thole as long as all you bleading hearts went and lived there with your psychotic, twisted, fantical troglodytes. Jerks as Bush and Blair were/are, don't make out they went into Afghanistan for any material gain - unlike Iraq it doesn't have any. And the irony is that Bush sr was head of the CIA in the late 70's and early 80's when the US backed the Taliban with arms and money - should have let the Soviets wipe them off the map.
you are helping to strip their assets What fooking assets? They armed, trained and harboured Al Qeada. They were lucky, after 9/11. that we, primarily, were able to stop the US reaching for the nuclear button and returned the damn cesspit into the stoneage that the Taliban seem to dearly desire. Get our peple out NOW - all of them. As said, that includes doctors, nurses, engineers, teachers and everything. No bloody forces there to stop the waring gangsters (and that's what they are) from anhilating each other, which is what they've done best for the lact two milleniums.
Man you seriously need to stop watching so much propaganda; if you seriously do not know what Afghanistan has then you are really at the lower end of the gene pool. If you had kept up my first post on here was to respond to somebody saying those in Afghanistan were courageous which I disputed. Wheres the proof we would all be living in the kind of country you describe?
You are a soldier fighting to save the lives of innocent people who have done nothing wrong but have been invaded by another country, Like the innocent Afghans who've been slaughtered by Taliban from Iran, Pakistan and other countries outside Afghanistan?
if you seriously do not know what Afghanistan has then you are really at the lower end of the gene pool Elucidate then - what material/mineral wealth does Afghanistan have? Heroin? Rocks? Goats? Waht 'propaganda' have I fell for? I was against the war from the start. Mostly because i knew many British lives would be lost: not because of Afghan losses, sad as they are, because , as stated, they'd be killing each other anyway and will continue to do so when the Allies withdraw.
Wheres the proof we would all be living in the kind of country you describe? Two worls wars, Napoleon, the Spanish and their Inquisition, the Vikings, the Soviets and more.
Have you ever heard the quote "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" the more you talk the more you reveal yourself to be a fool! So what you are saying is we are doing them a favour?
Have you ever heard the quote "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt" the more you talk the more you reveal yourself to be a fool! So what you are saying is we are doing them a favour? Ever heard the quote "What fooking assets, d!ckhead?". Speak out about that one, and perhaps you'll leap up in the IQ scale from cretin to a basic idiot. And no, of course the intention was not to 'do them a favour'. It's their sovereign right to live in the stoneage and slaughter each other in internecine gang warfare and treat all women as the sh!t on their shoes. As said, now the kunt Bin laden is dead there's no need to risk any of our people any more. Just send drones over and take the Taliban out that way henceforth.
Think you are wasting your time trying to get through to this thick dick. Apparently he feels our soldiers are not courageous because they are fighting to save innocent people from oppression that doesn't count. According to him courage is only shown by soldiers fighting in wars he believes in.total tosspot
