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RVP again...

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Cb, May 18, 2012.

  1. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    If the club that has Denilson are paying his full wages that saves £50k per week already <ok>

    Add that to whatever RVP is on and thats a substantial pay rise. Lets say RVP was on £70K now - add Denilson's salary to that and he is on £120K per week - so the club would need to find £30k per week to fund a £150k Per week salary. I think Fabregas was on over £100k per week at Arsenal - we can certainly afford paying good wages for players considering how much money we have in the bank and how much we have tied up in fringe players.
     
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  2. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    When we upped our salary bill from 100M to 130M last year, we already took that Denilson money into account. You don't get to add it again. RVP is reportedly asking for 250K a week, you need to find another 100K - keep going.
     
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  3. omogooner

    omogooner Well-Known Member

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    I really do not know what wages has to do with whether RVP stays or go.... One thing many fans accept is that, it is not JUST about money with RVP, even though that helps, I actually think RVP wants to win a major trophy as TheBear, already alluded to, whilst I accept there is no guarantee, (inspite of the talents on parade in a team) that a particular team will win the championship or the champ league, but unless you are a rose tinted gooner, we can safely say unless there is a major overhaul of the playing staff at the Emirates, we will not be challenging for anything next season, let alone win it, we see this RVP sees it!
     
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  4. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    Well, I don't think the trophy thing has anything to do with it to be honest. I doubt RVP presumes to tell Wenger which players he should sign in order to be a success, nor do I think he can expect Arsenal to sign players by out-bidding the mega-rich clubs. He is unlikely to take the blame if he "makes" Wenger sign a player for 30M and that player turns out to be a bust! If signing Podolski wasn't a message of intent then he is not going to be satisfied with M'Vila or Vertonghen.

    I do think that if another club offers RVP 150K/week+ he will leave. The man has a family to think of and even if he has to live away from them for 2 years, he will feel that he needs to cash in on his success now. And Arsenal cannot afford to match the offer.
     
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  5. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    Fine.

    where has RVP "reportedly" asked for £250k per week - as if he would ??? <doh>

    I am also of the belief that for RVP salary will not be the issue - you can see what he is like on the pitch, he wants to win, he wants trophies, he is an Arsenal fan.
     
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  6. There are some very misguided folk on here that talk a lot of nonsense about wages. Arsenal have CHOSEN not to spend big on individual wages and to operate a comparatively flat wage structure - not only could we afford to pay 2 or 3 players £150k-200k per week - we could do it easily.

    Over the course of the next 2 years we need to trim our professional squad down significantly and work on redistributing the wages. I think we will actually do this. Selling players and natural attrition over the coming seasons is the order of business - but NOT our best players. Players like Vela, Bendtner, Denilson should be shipped out at the first available opportunity and not replaced. If through this process we have to up our wage bill by £30m a season - so what? We'd still make a profit and it would come down as we let players contracts wind down - players like Bendtner.

    Some people will go to extraordinary lengths to use money as a smoke screen for failure.
     
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  7. TheBear

    TheBear Well-Known Member

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    Firstly I highly doubt RVP asking for upwards of 200k.


    Secondly the whole 'we are not man city' argument is bull****. We have a 60,000 capacity stadium and have made a PROFIT from recent transfer dealings. We CAN afford the likes of M'Villa. We need another 2-3 quality additions or we will have another substandard season.

    Arsenal are at risk of becoming another Spurs/Everton and it's not down to a lack of resources but a lack of ambition.
     
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  8. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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  9. <ok> spot on.
     
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  10. goonerman

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    I think when Wenger says the Europa league is good it shows quite clearly that his ambitions & those of the club are severely reduced.
    If this is his & the clubs stance then we have no chance. We can all see the faults & lack of real quality in the team.I fully expect RVP to go now that Pod has signed. They can sell RVP for £20+m & Pod cost half that. More divis for the shareholders??
     
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  11. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    Shareholders haven't taken dividends in YEARS as far as I'm aware. The fact this idea keeps coming up is ridiculous. They take NO money out of the club save for salaries, which are declared and taxed and publically available in the end-of-year accounts.
     
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  12. theHotHead

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    Bonstar, however you look at it, the club are making shedloads but not spending it, the money must therefore either be banked or join in someone's pocket by way of salary, in any case, we are not seeing that money being spent on the team.
     
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  13. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    And there's your answer to 'Kronke's only interested in taking money out of the club' <ok>
     
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  14. The money is being banked - but we are not being told why we need so much cash. At the end of the summer the bank balance is likely to be close to £200m.
     
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  15. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    We're saving up to buy Messi and Ronaldo <ok>
     
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  16. LOL... if only. Gazidis tells us we need it on hand to pay our wages - even though we cover wages from annual profits <laugh>... Still I am sure 95% of fans actually fell for that one.
     
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  17. theHotHead

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    Whats to stop him taking the money that is being put into the bank - I mean his share ? Nothing. He could take a whacking great payment at the end of his stint, nothing stopping that and it results in the same thing - Arsenal being bled.
     
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  18. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    As Bonstar pointed out, Shareholders have agreed not to take dividends out of the club. I think it would be hugely controversial and a massive vote of no confidence from the board if Kronke were to bypass this agreement by surreptitiously creaming off money on the side.
     
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  19. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    all thats small change. A club owned stadium, CL football, a promise of youth coming through (ahem!).

    Share value will go through the roof if he wants to sell up. Lots of rich oilers, techies, ruskies etc etc.
     
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  20. theHotHead

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    He doesn't have to do it surreptitiously, he can do it when he decides to sell his shares, for example, making money on them PLUS taking a whacking great payment from the bank.

    If he is Silent Stan, not putting in any input, not contributing financially to improve the squad, not coming to watch the games, why did he buy us ? It cannot be for an investment if, as you claim, he won't take any money, he isn't a fan and he doesn't want to make us heavyweights. Why did he buy us ? It makes no sense.

    People spend that sort of money to make money unless they have an affinity or connection with something. If he did it to make a bit of money and sell on his shares then he is hindering the progress of the club because there are others who want to buy the club and make us champions. I cannot think of a single scenario where having Silent Stan as our majority shareholder benefits Arsenal football club at all.
     
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