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Leicester Show How Not To Do It

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by BillysStatue, May 18, 2012.

  1. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    So Pearson goes and pays £1m for a non-league striker on the back of a little Cup run. Okay, so the lad scored in the Conference but **** me, £1m for Vardy is a bit mental!! That said, at leat its a million Leicester have wasted as I genuinely can't see this lad firing them to promotion.

    Who knows, maybe Pearson will give us £2m for Billy Bunter. Leicester have really wasted a stack of cash so far, wonder how they will cope after another season of failure? Rolling the dice something fierce, failure not an option.
     
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  2. leeds down south

    leeds down south Well-Known Member

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    Looked a decent player down at the Shay, and even on a poor surface showed his class, running with the ball at speed and a great first touch.
     
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  3. Proud Fox

    Proud Fox Well-Known Member

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    It can potential rise to 1.7M

    Nigel don't spend money like Sven did and for Nigel to spend that much on 1 player he must be really sure he is the real deal.

    Steve Morison, Grant Holt, Jermaine Beckford and Charlie Austin all have come from non league in recent years and made good careers for themselves
     
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    leeds down south Well-Known Member

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    Here at Leeds, we like to boast about signing ex-prem and current international stars like Mikael Forssell. Free transfer as well, absolute bargain!
     
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  5. Proud Fox

    Proud Fox Well-Known Member

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    I think the signing of Vardy pretty much confirms Beckford is on his way out

    2M and hes yours
     
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  6. grumpy old grandpa

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    Or 3M and you can have Steve Howard thrown in as well
     
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  7. Proud Fox

    Proud Fox Well-Known Member

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    Steve Howard is a free agent, they can have him for free along with Darius Vassell
     
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  8. grumpy old grandpa

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    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh don't tell them that we might get them to part with 3M. On second thoughts with PAPA Smurf as chairman perhaps not.
     
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  9. The-Don

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    Leeds also show how not to do it!!!

    We had chance to sign him when he was at Halifax for 100k Bates is a ****
     
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  10. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    He's not exactly young though. That sorta money for a completely unproven mid 20's striker. I can't see it working out but to be fair you never know
     
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  11. 666 & Elmo

    666 & Elmo New Member

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    What cost were Steve Morison, Grabnt |Holt, Jermaine Beckford, Charlie Austin when they were plucked from obscurity?

    Nowhere near £1m to £2m

    Ludicrous money. The idea that Pearson is any different from Sven or that the owners have learnt any lessons is laughable. Put money into the mix and they all go mad, while the supporters continue to lap it up and try to justify it.

    Lesta - living the dream. Or not - at the moment - as it happens. What's really happening is they are dreaming about living the dream. Sad.
     
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  12. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member
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    I would LOVE Leeds to be able to splash the cash on a player with £1 million but if they did that on one unproven player I would call it madness. I can't for even one minute understand the logic or reasoning behind anyone believing £1 million being spent on a non league player and a "Pearson don't spend money like Sven did" comment. I must admit I don't like threads like this one as it makes constructive comments sound like jealous ones...

    I guess in Leicesters favour they have owners who can bank roll big signings and they are going to have to gamble a little on the unproven as who else can they splash that cash on? I have said it before and I will say it again, unless you are a lower league player or a player who is a bit of a journey man looking for a final pay day what is the attraction of a 'top' player signing for Leicester?
     
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  13. Danger Fox

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    For a player that was plying his trade in the conference last season it certainly is a very high price (records tend to be) whether or not it will prove to be justified remains to be seen, but a tally of 34 goals in 40 games is impressive - So why pay so much for him?

    Our manager and chief scout have seen enough to believe he will cut it at this level, they must do or they wouldn't have shelled out so much money on him and so do a number of other higher league clubs, as such in order to secure his signature on a contract we needed to compete with them - As unpalatable as it is for some, the lure of money works, it worked for Fleetwood and it worked for Vardy - I really don't see why we wouldn't use our ability to gain an advantage when we can get what we want that way i.e. secure the services of Jamie Vardy.

    "while the supporters continue to lap it up and try to justify it". Just a thought - What do you think we should do? Complain loudly that our owners are using their money to try and get Leicester City into the Premier league <yikes> Last season didn't work and we justifiably became a laughing stock having spent so much money unwisely and unsuccessfully - It may happen this coming season, I hope not, but I and the majority of Leicester supporters are a little wiser having taken quite a bit of stick on these boards for some pretty boastful claims.

    The fact remains the club are pursuing a policy of signing players that they believe will bring success, they'd be wrong not to and we supporters are continuing to support them, we'd be wrong not to.
     
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  14. lifecheshirewhite

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    All came with small transfer fee's and took a year or 2 in league 1.None went straight to the championship.stupid money on a high risk,will festa ever learn.:emoticon-0145-shake
     
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  15. ristac

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    Don't take this the wrong way, the club are signing players they can attract for over the odds prices. YES it might be that the team assembled wins promotion, to be honest any team with large amounts of cash have to get it right in the end, more times than not through trial and error.

    Grant Holt asked for a transfer, proven in this division and within Leicesters budget, why do Leicester not make a move for him - Because why on earth would he wish to play for Leicester? It would be the same for 90% of clubs in the Championship and even many premiership teams, if you suddenly have an owner with plenty to waste who are you going to attract that can actually do the business?

    The Manchester pair you signed, I read fans saying building for long term success and the future, if Leicester get promoted and those two players stand out like a sore thumb do you honestly believe that they will stay at Leicester when one of the top 6 clubs agents come knocking? It is okay having loads to spend but what are your owners realistic ambitions? When they realise that promotion to the Premier is the pinnacle will they continue ploughing the money in chasing the dream?

    If/When Leicester win promotion that is it, end of the road, realistically what else are you going to win, do the owners of Leicester City understand the English game enough to realise that they are not going to compete with Man City, Chelsea and the rest?
     
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  16. Danger Fox

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    Your point is actually spot on - I'm not naive, I know that Leicester is not a top draw club for the best players. This was one of the reasons for our failure last season - The club pursued the wrong players, players well out of our league and players that were never going to play for Leicester in the championship no matter how much you paid them. This delayed our search for the type of players we should have been targeting and led us to panic buying the wrong players.

    This season, with Pearson in charge and a reality check for the owners, we are chasing AND signing players who possess both quality and more importantly potential for further development under the right guidance - If anyone stands out as a potential world beater, we'll lose them to a higher profile club, but the same is true for any club outside of the very top
     
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  17. ristac

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    Totally agree but I still don't believe that Pearson is not like a kid in a candy store given a free role. If Leicester had a realistic budget for this division he would never 'gamble' on a non league player for £1 million - Don't get me wrong, I would expect most managers to do the same and while I do not expect Pearson to waste any kind of the same money Sven wasted I can't help but feel a manager who was top drawer for this division should at least be able to get the best out of Beckford, a proven goal scorer over taking the non league £1 million pound gamble
     
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  18. Danger Fox

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    Of course Pearson wouldn't have spent £1 million on Vardy without the owners money - I'm sure if you could have picked up a 34 goal in 40 games conference player for say £40K you'd jump at the chance, as indeed would Bates & Colin - That means that the potential is there and he is worth taking a gamble on.

    The difference between your club and mine is we can afford to play with a higher value chip, as such the level of risk is not the same for the both of us - Honestly I'm not bragging just taking a pragmatic view of the Vardy signing.

    Beckford on the other hand is simply not a Pearson type of player - There are both clubs and managers under whom Beckford would thrive (I genuinely hope our respective clubs can work out a deal that sees him move to Leeds) But Pearson and his style of football demands a higher energy player and style of play - I wish him luck but recognise Leicester is not the right place for him and he is not the right player for us
     
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  19. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    The thing is this - Vardy is a HUGE gamble at £1m-plus. In all honesty, have you seen how bad Ebbsfleet, Forest Green and others are in the BSP? Pearson is being reckless here, and that is not good for City. And that's the point! Pearson is a muppet who showed last season how rubbish he is and he simply isn't suddenly going to get better. If anything, it shows a bit of desperation spending this on non-league. Seriously, a record amount in today's market? Damn stupid if you ask me. Fleetwood would have taken £300k in a heartbeat, they must be laughing their tits off that Pearson gave them £1m with add ons. Its these reckless deals that **** up the market for everyone else. What next, Wycombe's top scorer going for £3m?
     
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  20. Danger Fox

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    As I said, it's all relative, of course £1 million for Vardy is too steep a gamble for you, but the fact remains its not for us - I'd like to work out, but if it doesn't it won't make the wheels fall off Leicester City. And if it's making transfer dealings more difficult for our rivals, sorry but all the better
     
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