http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/13/manchester-city-leeds-premier-league LUFC: last true champions.
You are pointing the finger at the wong club mate. Yes City have been bought by a wealthy owner. But we are the last. Fifa's 'financial fairplay' rules mean that no other team can ever have the dream that some rich guy will come along and drag them to the top. Platini has ring-fenced the top flight with his new rule - no longer will a wealthy arab or (in leeds case) a rich painter come and save them from obscurity. No, as long as the new rules exist, the top flight will stay as it is. As a man City fan, I have watched us play against teams from 3 divisions of English football and had a great time in all three. Ups and downs, heartache and triumph is the lot of the football fan, it is character forming. I'm not going to apologise for my club matching the spending of the top clubs because that i'm afraid is the nature of the modern game. I feel I am incredibly lucky and I never thought it would happen in my lifetime but it has. Do not try and rain on my parade because quite simply - if your club had done the same you would not have raised your voice. Do not pretend otherwise because no-one will believe you. I am not really here.
I don't think I am to be honest. Man City used to be likeable underdogs, now you're increasingly looking like arrogant ***gots with your light displays, Poznan bullsheeeeit, 'how to be a City fan' guide, sudden increase in out-of-town members clubs and cringey squad videos popping up. Not to mention bloody Gallagher poncing about at that derby game which I was glad to see you win, and the jester hat-wearing legions of fans that eternally seem to populate your new plastic stadium. Worst of all is the parasitical leeching of Yorkshire talent, with Man City training camps popping up all over Leeds and the other Ridings. Stick to your own turf. Seems like a different club altogether from what you used to be. Not if your irritating exploitation of the apparent sponsorship loophole means anything. If it doesn't, maybe you're right. It still doesn't mean real football fans should forgive or forget the reckless and damaging spending Sheikh Mansour and his boys have undertaken since they took over your club. Absolutely right. I just wish those ups and downs came from an honestly-assembled team playing in front of passionate fans. Man City's title win today - and don't get me wrong, the scum from the other side of your city would have been exactly the same - represents an obstruction to that. It doesn't have to be like that if enough people believe and act. Don't believe me then. But I certainly would. Even this season, I'm saying we should spend less than 4m on transfer fees. I want value for money and a sustainably-run club, not foreign billions being used as the foundation for my club being built. Sorry?
1.Well you are. 2.That is simply exactly how much this league title costs from scratch. 3.This was an honestly assembled squad at the going rate. If you think it can be done cheaper - you are deluded. 4. They won't. Get over it or remain angry. 5. sigh - I hope for the sake of other Leeds fans that you will not get the football you are looking for. 6. I am like a fan of the invisible man, I am not really here.
cfc fan in peace - congratulations to City on their title. I see that you are experiencing the attack of the "green-eyed" monsters that we experienced 7 years ago; so we pressed the fast-forward button as you guys had to and if these people were honest they would gladly shed their "two-faced" self-righteousness if it meant their teams had a share of the limelight.
I'm sure you think it's jealousy.I am equally sure it isn't.Our team cost just a few milliuon to finish 12th.Our top scorer cost £400k.I think you will find that us Norwich fans derived as much satisfaction out of our midtable finish as you did from winning the title.I am being perfectly serious when i say that I for one would not swap places with you.Not if it meant fawning at the feet of the sheikhs and scouring the world with a massive cheque book and buying every kind of mercenary available.I have watched and enjoyed City at Maine rd,the OP was right,you have lost more than you gained.
I've no doubt then when daft Delia was sozzled in the centre circle wondering where everyone was,you were happy to be drifting through the premier league trap door back to the obscurity of the championship.Rather that than owners investing their own money and challenging for trophies? It could well be that scenario next season again
Either make an effort or don't bother at all. I've stated some facts, now it's your job to refute them, not just stick your fingers in your ears and go 'nerner-nerner'. Yes... and that's a disgrace, as is the sponsorship exploitation. Do you get my point now? The going rate can get to ****. I'll remain angry then. Rather be that than a passionless, brainwashed $ky $ports sheep. You don't want a top flight where 10-15 teams have a realistic chance of winning it? Where matchday tickets are cheaper? Where fans can actually show passion and aren't airbrushed out for the benefit of 'the reputation of the game', with colourful wig-wearing dolts shown in their place? Where a proper tackle can be made on the pitch instead of stupid rules like 'excessive force' being used to slyly make the game more pretty for the TV execs and their customers? And you wish this present excuse for football on other supporters? Deary me. Still confused. What does "the invisible man" have to do with the price of fish? Wrong, hence why I said I wouldn't.
Jerel reads like alot of sour grapes to me. Just because a rich guy from the middle east decides to buy Man City, everybody dosesn't like it, but however if it was their club that was bought out, they would say nothing, and why are you picking on us. Just face it, now the top clubs in the prem will just get richer and the rest of the clubs will get poorer. The only people to blame for this mess are sky who brought this whole thing about by offering silly money, so that they can show the premier league live. yes you can also blames the clubs, but don't forget the players have also to take some of the blame, as well as the players agents. Jerel tell me why dose a player need an agent to discuss his wages with his manager, surely the player/s must have a bit of a brain to be able to talk about his wages. Would you pay me say 5% of your wages every week just for me to try and get you a small pay rise I'm sure you wouldn't, however that is what some players are doing. The day that football was for the ordinary work bloke has long go, there are many contribting factors and players greed is 1 of them. Perhaps if a wage cap was brought in throughout all the European Leagues, it might just even out the good quality players between more of the clubs. Don't forget how mant times have has bitterest rival broke the transfer record to buy up the best players, so please if your going to have ago at us jsut try and examine where it all started from, and it started long before my club Man City where bought out.
At least our owner attends the games.OK we might get relegated next season,but I suggest that our grief over that won't be a patch on what yours is if you lose the title to United on the last day of the season.Personally when we were in League 1 and I took my son up to watch Orient or S****horpe that was just as enjoyable,we still had 26000 for those games. P.S. Love the way they censor Scun Thorpe It's all down to expectations now isn't it? And yours are sky high.No surer way to get disappointed than that.
I hear what you are saying, and it sounds like this; "whine whinge boo hoo". Leeds and Norwich are where they are because of money from wealthy investors. Yes I may not like the gentrification or corporatisation of football, but it is not going to go away and so, Like 30 thousand others who have followed my football club through the worst period in it's history, we are just going to stretch out and enjoy this. You don't have to. We are not really here.
All of that is true except for the bit where you said I'd say nothing if my club was helping destroy football even further with insane amounts of oil dosh and all the other stuff on my charge list at the beginning of the thread which has ultimately made Man City a dislikeable club. It is sour grapes, but for very justifiable reasons. Absolutely. I think professional agents and image rights payments should be outlawed by every football authority in the world. If a player doesn't understand the complexities of contract negotiations, let them bring a financially-competent friend or relative to help them rather than a leeching millionaire agent. Glad we agree on that one. Wage cap, transfer cap, ticket price cap, TV money cap, standing areas in stadiums. Five basic measures which would take football back to where it should be. It's not rocket science. But you still get Man City and Chelsea fans who make excuses for their owners who are moving football further away from those ideals, and cackle evilly when mentioning spending power, sponsorship loopholes and gaping holes in the balance sheet due to the owners' insanely irresponsible investments. True. And I have criticized Man U, Blackburn, Chelsea and others for indulging in what was at those respective times the kind of unprecedented spending that's going on at Man City today. Each one has pushed the boundaries further away from sanity, and so deserves criticism for doing that, as does my own club for its actions a decade ago. No, that's what you're saying. What I'm doing is putting together a well-thought-out argument and demolishing your pathetic "points" one by one. No, Leeds are where we are today because of a lack of wealthy investors. All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. Yes, you really, really are. Unfortunately.
City paid the going rate £930million...........erm.......I am going to go out on a limb and say you overpaid on every single signing and paid in some cases 10 times what the player was worth.
man united win titles on point difference, city win titles on goal difference that's what a billion pound buys you what class haha HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
That is correct,and exactly my point.My criticism was in no way directed at Manchester City as a club.I used to spend christmas at Warrington and always took in a Boxing Day match,usually Maine Rd.So I would say that I was a neutral who was well disposed to the club. My dislike isn't in any way envy though.I am happy to support little carrot-crunchy Norwich whichever division we are in.No,it's the ethos of money and I am afraid that City are the apothesis of dancing to the devil's tune.Whether the devil is Murdoch,Abramovich or your lot whatever their names are City's (And chelski's)policy of (over)paying for everything represents everything that is bad about football in the 21st century. Sorry City - More in sadness than anger.
Deluded? At least I'm consistent. Every complacent opinion you ever form gets back-tracked upon as soon as it's proven to be a load of old codswallop!
You need to check your history, utd going out of business benefactor comes along gives £40k, fortune in those days, and saves them! But you are probably another c**t who thinks football started in 1991, F**k Off.
With the news that Ken Bates is in talks to sell LUFC, I look forward to reading Jerel's posts campaigning against this proposed investment. Amazed there hasn't been one yet?
