Obama supports gay marriage

Fan, in conversational mode:

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The whole POINT was that there hadnt exactly been a rush since civil partnerships were made legal to warrant the gay marriage debate

As usual you have tried to change the basis/boundary of your dispute/argument

when proved WRONG you have tried to change tact, AGAIN

FACT is civil partnerships were made legal in 2004 and there hasnt been a mad rush that warrants the attention being given to the whole gay marriage debate

and they are the same thing

 

Why can you never accept that you're wrong, even when it's been proven without a shadow of a doubt?
Everything that you claimed was wrong, it's been shown to you exactly why you were wrong and yet you still insist that you're right.

Have you ever had a psychiatric evaluation?

 

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DO you actually even know what your argument/dispute was?

As has been pointed out to you by more than just me, civil partnerships were made legal in 2004

Apart from that I have not disputed anything

here you go, just to be clear

- 2003 - British government announced plans to introduce civil partnerships
- 30-03-2004 - The Civil Partnership Bill was introduced into the House of Lords.
- 17 - 11- 04 it was passed by the House of Lords, its final legislative hurdle,
- 18 -11- 2004 received Royal Assent

 

Then the Act came into force on the 5th December 2005 you thick ******.

Everyone on this thread knows you're wrong apart from you.

 

ST are you really THAT stupid? serious question

I know PNP is all a flutter because IG told hime he had lost

I will reiterate The ACT made civil partnerships legal in 2004, people were able to LEGALLY put their names down
prior to this they couldnt

I couldnt care less when the ceremonies took place, it doesnt change the fact that it was made LEGAL in 2004

Here you go:

A draft piece of legislation is called a bill, when this is passed by Parliament it becomes an Act and part of statute law. There are two types of bill and Act, public and private. Public Acts apply to the whole of the UK or a number of its constituent countries — England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Private Acts are local and personal in their effect, giving special powers to bodies such as local authorities or making exceptions to the law in particular geographic areas.[1]

In the United Kingdom Parliament, each bill passes through the following stages:
1.Pre-legislative scrutiny: Not undertaken for all bills; usually a joint committee of both houses will review a bill and vote on amendments that the government can either accept or reject. The report from this stage can be influential in later stages as rejected recommendations from the committee are revived to be voted on.
2.First reading: This is a formality; no vote occurs. The Bill is presented and ordered to be printed and, in the case of private members' bills, a date is set for second reading.
3.Second reading: A debate on the general principles of the bill is followed by a vote.
4.Committee stage: This usually takes place in a public bill committee in the Commons and on the Floor of the House in the Lords. The committee considers each clause of the bill, and may make amendments to it.
5.Consideration (or report) stage: this takes place on the floor of the House, and is a further opportunity to amend the bill. Unlike committee stage, the House need not consider every clause of the bill, only those to which amendments have been tabled.
6.Third reading: a debate on the final text of the bill, as amended. In the House of Lords, further amendments may be tabled at this stage.
7.Passage: The bill is then sent to the other House (to the Lords, if it originated in the Commons; to the Commons, if it is a Lords bill), which may amend it.
8.Consideration of Lords/Commons amendments: The House in which the bill originated considers the amendments made in the other House.
9.Royal assent


The civil partnership 'bill' was given royal assent in 2004. once it became 'law' it was LEGAL

 

I've had ****es with more intelligence than you. When EVERYONE tells you you are wrong, then it's becuase you are wrong you arrogant, bellicose, tedious ****.

 

read the edit above and then tell me that it wasnt 'legal' in 2004

I will refrain from responding in kind with swears untill your next comment

As I have said It made it legal in 2004. I have no issue with it coming into force, that was never my argument
It was never PNPs either, he changed it when he realised he was wrong

A law becomes such after royal assent, not the first time it is used

 

You were bullied at school weren't you?

 

It would explain why he became a 'teacher'

 

I presumed he was home educated and his parents were ******s.

 

Good responses people

I take it you accept it now

Thanks

 

Seeing as you were talking about people entering into a civil partnership Fan, you were obviously using 2004 as the year when they could do so.
That's clearly wrong, isn't it?

I wonder why there was no rush in 2004 and barely any in 2005?

 

Logic is lost on the thick ****.

 

look at the quote again FFS

Interestingly civil partnerships were made legal in 2004 and since then there have been less than 20 000 'ceremonies amongst gay people. hardly a rush

It clearly says they were made legal in 2004 and SINCE then. I have not mentioned anywhere when the first or last partnership took place

The 20, 000 figure I actually got from QT last week from that journo woman who was on there, when you raised it I didnt dispute it if you noticed. Although even 50k in the last 8ish years isnt a massive amount, bearing in mind the dissolutions

The argument was and for me is the year it became legal, and that was 2004 as explained above and how english bills become law and hence make things legal

now either look at the process I outlined above (in terms of how bills become law) and prove its wrong, or admit that it was made legal in 2004?

 

You still think that people could enter into civil partnerships in 2004.
I'm not sure how to proceed with this thread, as you're obviously quite damaged.

Have a nice picture of a badger, instead.

 

wy are you trying so hard to suggest I said something I didnt?

since when does 'became legal' read 'enter into'?

I see you havent answered the question I posed to you

I will take it as an admission of being wrong on your part and move on

 

It's 2012. Eight years ago was 2004.
If you'd have said "50k in the last 6ish years", then you might not have been utterly, obviously wrong, but you didn't.

You didn't pose any question to me, either.