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What's the latest on RVP?

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by lazarus20000, May 16, 2012.

  1. Sanj

    Sanj Well-Known Member

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    It was a nice goal as well. Was at that game, might be one of the lucky guys that has seen a Park Chu-Young goal. Need to get a T-shirt done for it.
     
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  2. Kyle?

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    Yes, i would loan Oxo, Wenger has made it clear that Theo is his favourite, so Oxo is going to be pretty limited in appearances. Give him back to Southampton for a season, let him improve beyond Theo's level, so Wenger has to start him.
     
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  3. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Good god, are our options now so bad that we are contemplating Nzonzi and Hoilett? At last the justification of building a brand new 60k stadium with increased revenue has allowed us to buy such immense quality. We will surely be the envy of the Premiership....
     
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  4. Kyle?

    Kyle? New Member

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    <laugh> Teams fear our mediocrity.
     
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  5. I agree with Bear and others that RvP would be encouraged to stay if we show intent in the transfer market but if we only sign Podolski then it won't be enough to convince him to stay. Podolski alone won't help us narrow the gap to Utd and City of 19 points. If we do not keep RvP then the idiots who run our club have no ambition and more fool Wenger for buying into the grand sustainable plan. What does this plan sustain again? Oh yes, 3rd or 4th place, how could I have forgotten already?


    PS - sorry for my absence guys. Been away on work.
     
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  6. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    Like I said Shwan, we don't have players who would do that and you enforce my opinion.

    Adebayor "flirted with AC Milan" - but at no point did he say double my wages or I am leaving <ok>

    Ashley Cole left because he said Arsenal went back on a previous promise of a £60k contract .. offering him £55k instead <ok>

    Nasri left because he wanted to see investment in the squad, in early 2011 he made this claim but what he saw was Jenkinson and Santos - so he left <ok>

    Like I said, these players didn't even come close to doing what Rooney did which was hold the club to ransom to double his wages.
     
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  7. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    I agree with this totally, I don't see us coming close to offering what City will offer BUT we will offer enough, we have the bank balance to allow for it. But RVP wants to see exactly who we are going to bring in this summer. We need at least 2 quality signings for RVP to stay, this is easily achieved by selling the dead wood.
     
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  8. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I think you overestimate how 'easy' it is to move players on and bring players in.
     
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  9. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    who are now out of contract?
    who have the one year left - RVP, Walcott -- ???
     
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  10. theHotHead

    theHotHead New Member

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    You are right and I agree also. But PISKIE also says we shouldn't sell Walcott and I'll be damned to see him hold us to ransom considering he has just had half a decent season with us as well !!! Sell every fooker who tries to delay contract talks to drag down their contract - sell them and buy in replacements, no player is bigger than the club.

    But lets not be blinkered here, RVP (not Walcott) deserves to be on top wages - wages we can afford to pay of course.
     
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  11. theHotHead

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    I think you over-estimate how difficult it is to transfer players. Supply and demand and the food chain dictates player transfers. Ambitious players move up the food chain, players who don't make the grade move down it.

    Arsenal have plenty of players not good enough to play for us - so they will move to clubs at their level who need them - supply and demand. Players who are better suited to Arsenal's level will leave the clubs they have out grown and come to us. Nothing difficult there. Wigan just gave permission to Liverpool to talk to Martinez ... moving up the food chain.
     
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  12. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    If you value players 'like' -Bendtner at £9m then you WILL have difficulty moving them on.
     
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  13. This has always been rubbish.

    There's not some strange legal process involved here. It's really really simple. You agree a fee and you agree wages. If you are not prepared to pay what is being asked get out of the way and focus on another player.

    If you are not able to sell a player for the price you want, drop the price. If wages are a stumbling block in selling a player, drop the transfer fee. When you get yourself in a mess with too many average players on big wages, the solution is NOT to hold out for big money - you have to cut your losses.

    'It takes a long time and is really difficult' is yet again another excuse. Scouts and agents do not come out of hibernation at the end of the season - we have a whole team of people who spend the whole year on this. At this stage everything should be wrapped up with just the personal terms and paper work to be agreed. Our club has proven to be completely inefficient in the market once again, and we are now in a position where we'll probably see things happening late AGAIN with little time to prepare.
     
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  14. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    We now have upwards of 10 benchwarmers - no! wait they are not even that good.

    Most on high wages nobody else will pay - so they can just sit it out.
     
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  15. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Why don't we take all these players on a nice long holiday, to a beautiful tropical island.....

    Stampeding_herd_of_hadrosaurs.jpg
     
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  16. Is that multiple Arsene Wengers chasing them?
     
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  17. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I agree having seen Spurs struggle to sell peripheral figures like Bentley, Jenas and Dos Santos. The transfer markets have become a lot calmer in recent seasons, without City the numbers would definitely back this up too. No doubt if you massively undervalue your players you could move them on quite easily but that then affects your ability to strengthen your squad/fill the coffers. Also once you move one on player really cheap, clubs will expect similar deals for the rest of your players.

    Unless a club really want your player all you'll get is semi-serious enquiries from clubs wanting a bargain or nothing. Take Dos Santos for example, Udinese offered £12mill for him and he didn't want to go, Sevilla got his interest however but they weren't willing to go over £3mill for him. You either hold on to them hoping to get the right price, which is really down to luck more than anything, or you fire sale at a fraction of their worth. Selling cheap just to get rid always seems like the simple option to fans but the reality is it makes the club as a business look very bad, their total assets go down and they take a loss on the assets sold.


    PS Sorry for all the Spurs references :D
     
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  18. theHotHead

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    Yid V - I disagree, you simply have to be realistic.

    It will only be difficult to move players on if you are being unrealistic about their fee. Players like Bendtner who expressed a desire to leave will not hold up a move because of salary, he will compromise because he wants to get out the door. You should have no trouble selling Dos Santos or Rat boy but knowing Levy, he will probably try to get as much for them as he paid - which is absurd ! Thats the real reason you can't sell them.
     
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  19. Agree, and there always deals to be done. Instead of £7m for Bendtner - take £4m and arrange with the new club to give him £3m as a cash bonus to ease the pain of lower wages. We might only break even on Bendtner and players like him - but so what. We cant hold out for profit on deadwood. We're talking about the last turkey's in the shop here.
     
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  20. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    If Sainsbury's does it for end of day bread, then why not for our unwanted. Sometimes it's hard to understand how our club has got themselves in such a predicament. It makes you cringe how an average player like Denilson can be paid 55k. It's even more shocking how we can get the only Brazilian that plays nothing like a friggin Brazilian. Where the Feck is his flair and skills?!?! Brazilians are suppose to be ballers, he's like a friggin crap Barry!
     
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