Was the title of my thread that was just removed from the Man City board. Censorship on a football forum!?!?! What are we? Children? Chriiiiisst! The thread posed a question; "What does it feel like to have your dreams of one day watching your club achieve a league title robbed from you?" Perhaps my fellow Swansea fans have a view on Manchester City's wonderful achievement? (and can discuss like grown ups)
City fans can no longer dream of watching there team win the title because they have now achieved that goal... And, at the same time, implying that the dream is better than the reality or possibly an anticlimax or just a case of being over-hyped.
They never did get to see THEIR club win a title did they? They got to see a rich Arab buy the Premier League title as if he were playing fantasy football....he just used City's facilities. They achieved NOTHING. Unless the point was to demonstrate how boring a rigged game is for all involved. It was a bit like a pathetic kid playing 'Football Manager' and using a cheat to insure that he could not be outbid for any player in the world. The power trip of an infant. I mean what was the point of it all? WHAT IS THE POINT? Perhaps there was a point and it was all about laundering money, I don't know, but it was certainly nothing to do with sport. Or football. Or Manchester City. And all those dickheads in Manchester celebrating like they had just witnessed something important, something that meant anything. It must feel really hollow. And this is what a lot of the divs up the road aspire too.
Let me put it another way. Would you like one of the richest men in the world to buy Swansea City and then proceed to buy all of the best players in the world over a few years? What do you think would happen? We would beat all the other teams and win trophy's. Inevitable. Would you get any pleasure from that experience do you think? E.g. You're 7 years old, it's school sports day, 100m. A genie appears and offers you the speed of superman. Would you take it and romp home, lording it over the other kids, watch your father weep with pride? Of course you would you're 7 years old. That's why superman is for kids. Now you're 27 years old and running for GB in the 100m Olympic final. The magic genie appears and makes the same offer. Do you take it? If the answer is "yes" you are still 7 years old. To win a rigged race is not an achievement and gives no satisfaction at all, right? You want to win the 100m gold because you have outperformed your competitors right? ....and the Arabs have taken that dream away from Manchester City supporters forever. The legions of dickheads in blue shirts celebrating that title are still 7 years old. Manchester City fans with half a brain have to feel hollow right now.
Terrorwit, you seem like a deep thinker. But I think you've thought a bit too deeply on this issue. IMO.
I understand what you're saying but what club plays a team full of locally developed players , none , it's all relative ,we're in with the big boys now and to compete at the next level (mid table) we need to bring in a few more quality players who will cost more and again to progress further into the top 4/6 repeat the process until we'd be in a position of being in with a shout of winning the league ( how much would that cost).Not saying I agree with it but thats the way it is
The top six sides have been doing it for decades, man city owners have just done the same thing in less time. The ones who achieve I think are the ones who can do it without the monopoly money spent, teams like the swans, norwich, wigan and a few others have got here spending pennies in comparison. They haven't won the league but they have won respect from their peers, and for me that is more important.
Pretty much. I get the impression you are a United fan Terrorwit? Because they are not all that different - and have got away with a debt of almost £1 billion without the FA blinking an eye, when they slam down on the smaller clubs. Hell, they almost did Liverpool in. That said, United could probably recoup that debt over time with the Glazers money...so isn't it funny how they are dependent on rich owners too. This is dependent on you being a United fan of course. Do tell.
I hear you Bonymaen. My logic taken to the extreme leads to teams of entirely local boys. I disagree that we can win the Premiership, ever, as the competition is presently constituted. It's a rigged game! If we improve enough to bother the big boys they'll just buy all of our star players. That's how it works. Nobody gets into the closed shop at the very top unless some billionaire is feeling generous. Surely there's a halfway house? Limit on transfer spend in a season for example? Fairer distribution of television money? Why should the big boys get the biggest cut. Without the opposition what would their customers be paying to see? Man United v Man United reserves? Chelsea v Man City 6-8 times a year? The way the competition is constituted is killing the game in this country. It's as entertaining a spectacle as the Scottish Premiership. Until the Swans were promoted I for one didn't watch Premiership football with any regularity for the best part of 10 years.
I find going on a silly rant about, shock horror, a club exploiting the culture of money that came with the Premier League when the implied "better" club does the same thing is a bit more preposterous, don't you?
What are you talking about "implied" better club? I'm talking about the debasement of the competition and our sport since the advent of the Premier League. Is it silly to care about this subject? Do tell.
Do the Guardian commission preposterous silly rants? http://http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/13/manchester-city-leeds-premier-league
It`s a results at any cost orientated buisness which sold out as far as grass roots fans are concerned when Trevor Francis became the first million pond player at Forest and it`s mainly been a monopoly for the teams with the most money ever since ! Which makes our teams achievments of beating and getting within spitting distance of them in the prem league table with meagre funds available in comparison to them even more remarkable .
I said this the other day ..man city title was bought and there are many who dont recognize them as champions the same as when chelsea bought the title. when both clubs are £100 of millions in debt and they pay some players £200k/week then what chance have the rest of us got........we wont be allowed to get into that much in debt or pay those sort of wages so how are they allowed to.....its false that you can only win the title if your foreign owners dont care about the debt and will buy the best players who are only there for the best wages and not really worried if they deliver the title or not.....
You are not going down the same route as the Guardian, it seems. Man City bought the title? Yeah, pretty much. But Chelsea are no better, nor are any of the clubs near the top and it irritates me that Man United and the like so commonly get ignored for screwing around with their finances themselves. Also, I take back what I said about you being a United fan - thought you were going to be another United fan whining about City. Regardless, I think targeting City as the major perpetrator in a bit of a rant about the obvious is a bit ignorant of what football has transfomed into since the Premier League and all the money came into it. I hope you do recognise that this is an issue amongst the entire top 6/7 group right? Even if Man City are the most dramatic and recent example of purchasing success.
