Do for me. I don't like these twats any more than you. But in punishing them I don't want to become like them is all.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/9115916/The-case-against-DNA.html http://50thingstonotknow.blogspot.co.uk/2006/12/dna-matching-is-not-infallible.html Can I just ask all those so convinced that DNA is infalible, what they would say to the mother & father, son or daughter of a man they had happily murdered by the state when the victim has been proved innocent after execution? I am no liberal lefty wishing to see an easy life in prison for criminals but I also am absolutely and utterly opposed to capital punishment, or state murder. Life should mean life and the cost of keeping that person shouldn't be an issue. if we want to live in a civilised society and under rules we create, we have to take the moral high ground and imprison perpetrators of crime not systematically execute them for their crimes. Stiffer penalties and longer prison sentences are the way forward but lets not go back in time replicate the mistakes of our past. It doesn't stop crime happening because the % of murders to population is actually smaller since capital punishment was abolished in the 50's, than it was before. One single innocent man or woman being murdered by the state, completely renders the judicial system impotent in my eyes.
In america, states without the death penalty have on average, a lower murder rate than those that do. They also tend to have lower prison populations. Also, it is MORE expensive to execute someone than to keep them in prion all their life due to the amount of appeals, court procedings etc on top of the ocst of keeping them in priosn. Capital punishment is from a bygone era. Thats what I have to say on the matter
Let me be totally honest, I have no religious objections or clever arguments and before anyone asks, if it was my son or grandson murdered yes I would probably want to kill them, but. In the cold light of day, with emotion taken out I do and always have felt it wrong to kill, to end a human life, even someone who has ended someone else's life. I certainly don't agree with 14 years, cut to 7, for murder but capital punishment, for me and I can only speak for me, is not the answer.
Good articles C'est and in my post I did say after all appeals meaning a period (5-10 years) in jail. I still maintain however my view that the likes of Ian Huntley, the Lockerbie plane bomber etc should be killed. I do not think it ever will happen because changes to the constitution would have to be made. I am still extremely bitter about an incident that occurred in my life 4 years ago and I know if my son, wife, father or brother were murdered (highly unlikely) I would go looking for revenge and believe I would have no qualms about killing that person(s).
I will make my views short and sweet... Mistakes will always be made, but if it means the loss of a few against the many.... The death penalty should be brought back.......
Spot on marra!! You saved me the bother of writting a reply...What I would add however, is that in the USA, the states which have the death penalty also have the highest murder rates, so it has not proved to be an effective deterrent...
But you are trying to put me into a corner here....no problems.... Do i believe in the death sentence?........................yes Will it always be the correct verdict?......................no How do you want to combat the issues of the death penalty/........no right or wrong,can't help mistakes, but for any one mistake there will be thousands of correct decisions.....and if means that it's a safer place, well that is the price.....for you, and all your families.
Unless I am wrongly convicted, or a member of my family is wrongly convicted. Then you (via the State) become the murderer. There is no more safety in your society and no logic in your argument...sorry.
But why is it safer? For 2010, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty States was 4.6, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 2.9 For 2009, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty States was 4.9, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 2.8 For 2008, the average Murder Rate of Death Penalty States was 5.2, while the average Murder Rate of States without the Death Penalty was 3.3 http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state#MRord http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/det...alty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates
As has been said many times, all the evidence points to the fact that it does not act as deterrent! Murder rates are higher in states where the death penalty exists...
But what if the supposed called innocent....is reall? guilty? and he is given freedom, and this supposed crime happened to one of YOUR family? Easy to take the high moral ground when not involved mate.... .
Here's a thought (total guess work, I admit), what if the states which have the death penalty did have a much higher rate before it was introduced or the death penalty is in place to stop the murder rate from soaring? Probably a daft post but like I say it was just a thought.
Well I am the other way around, My Wifes brother is serving 20 years for Murdering and raping a young lass (she was 21 he was 25) 12-13 years ago. I have never met him, but his kids and Mother Brother and my wife go to see him in Durham occasionally, his dad wont have anything to do with him though. He is probably due out soon, doubt he will show his face around here, well I hope he doesnt, He seems OK as i have talked to him on the phone, but there is still the factor on what he done, it wasnt nice at all as I have read some stuff about it and my wife has told me some things the papers couldnt even print. Should he be on death row, probably yes, but thats the problem, he would still be on death row even after 12-13 years, so it still wouldnt save us any money. Lets just hope when he does get out, he has learnt his lesson. But thats another problem, will he be institutionalised and do something again to get put back in?
