I agree with the rest of what you said but not sure about that mate. You're better organised defensively than us but man for man the only defender I'd take in our back 4 is Skrtel, although I'd say Ekotto and Enrique are very evenly matched. In midfield I wouldn't take any of yours in our first 11, although again Lucas and Parker I believe is very even and Gerrard would fit in well either for Modric or VDV. I wouldn't have swapped Ade for any of your forwards either, not that he's really our player. Squad wise I think we were similarly imbalanced in that neither of us had players who all could fit in the same formation. We have two fast wingers but our backup options were Kranjcar, Pienaar or VDV/Modric out of position all of which are better served in the middle and don't have the devastating pace to take up the same role as Bale and Lennon. You had 2/3 players capable of playing wide in a 433 but Bellamy was always going to struggle to play a big part in your season. Downing is more suited to playing wide in a 442 and Henderson never really settled in the middle or outwide. Gerrard again wasn't someone who you could rely on because of injury but Adam and Henderson came up well short when trying to impose themselves on a game like Gerrard can. Similarly when Modric was injured or moved out wide, with Huddlestone out injured all season we had no creative focal point in the middle which changed our whole gameplan and similarly with VDV or Ade out we had no direct replacements and had to go 442. Having already spent a lot since Dalglish joined you are still left with a first 11 that needs work and a squad that needs work too. Considering Dalglish presumably thought the squad was complete at the start of the season, I think it was wise to bring in someone new with ideas that have brought real success to a club more recently.
I think they have been a little unfair and harsh sacking Kenny. They should have given him another season. I cannot see who is going to take it on now. We could be facing further decline if we get it wrong and without a lot of money, I do not see a way forward.
I didn't think it reasonable at all actually. I thought in august after arsenal imploded there was a post to be had though. I think it all goes back to suarez. both comolli and kenny are gone and is it becasue of how rubbish adam, downing and others are or is it cos mr suarez caused serious ebaressment?
Suarez had caused embarrassment off the field, and hardly done the job he was bought to do on it, 15 Premier League Goals in a Season and a half, shouldn't cost you £23M.
Yeah, that's it. Fergie got sacked because of Cantonas GBH or Rio "missing" 3 drugs tests & sticking by both. Na. All glossed over if your winning, ANYTHING is glossed over when you're winning. Media will forget, shareholders, fans. You honestly telling me that if Terry scores a winning header in the final of the Euro's he'll get convicted, cast out & if not Hodgeson will lose this job? Kenny doesn't & would never fit the glossy magazine profile of our owners. It's not about football it's about high society on the "community" side & prestige & power on the business side. Fair enough if you're running Tesco's It's why AVB or Martinez are running high. Glossy. The more I've seen since October the more I despair of our Saviours. But in 5 years time, if we've won the league, the champions league, yet more dishonourable behaviour will be forgiven & forgotten. We can wave our plastic red warrior flags.....
Agree with OP, harshly treated indeed! Yes we HOPED for top four and BELIEVED we had a chance but at the same time we knew that there were at least five teams that were either better or equal to us in terms of ability and all those teams were largely settled squads! I think people have watched how the season panned out and reacted on that basis; what I mean is people think wrongly that some of those teams underperformed because of the nature of how the season went. Man City and United were pretty much what you would expect, Arsenal had a good season in honesty but because they had a couple of huge dips many believe they underperformed, the same you could argue with Spurs as they had a couple of dips too, Chelsea did underperform. The only teams you could really argue that should not have finished above us is Everton and Newcastle, but then again Newcastle have had an amazing season and finished above Chelsea too. Add this to the fact we did not get anywhere near what we truly deserved then yes Dalglish was treated very harshly. Lets also not forget that aside from Utd we have had the worst luck in terms of injuries to key players. In comparison to Spurs they have largely had all their key men available for most of the season, whereas we have really had Lucas, Suarez and Agger out for long periods as well as one of our better players Gerrard really out of form, also their squad is very settled! To illustrate my point about the top teams NOT really underperforming(aside from Chelsea) here is the points total of the top six for the last few years; 2011/12 2010/11 2009/10 2008/09 2007/08 1)89 1)80 1)86 1)90 1)87 2)89 2)71 2)85 2)86 2)85 3)70 3)71 3)75 3)83 3)83 4)69 4)68 4)70 4)72 4)76 5)65 5)62 5)67 5)63 5)65 6)64 6)58 6)64 6)62 6)60 Apart from perhaps 3rd place getting weaker there is not much difference in total points especially in 5th and 6th over the last few years, infact this year was stronger than last! I think whilst it hurts that Newcastle finished above us their points total was better or equal to 4 of the last five years! Chelsea underperformed and that would have made this years points total even better if they had performed anywhere near their capabilities! Another point of significance is that the promoted teams were a hell of a lot stronger than in previous years, the league is getting more competitive, harshly treated for sure!
Kenny was given the money PRE August to ensure the squad was good enough, he made massive errors with his transfers, he paid the price
He did make errors no question but the objective was at best optimistic and at worst completely unrealistic. The loss of lUcas added to this and perhaps Miereles leaving too did not help.
Cazorla and Mata would have both come to LFC, to not sign one or TBH both, was completely f**kin bonkers.With those 2 in the side the worst we would have got in the League is 3rd, IMO
And how can you possibly know that? Mata chose Chelsea I presume because he saw them as a better prospect of winning things, champs league and higher wages, just as Torres and Meireles did. Are you saying he preferred to come to Liverpool but chose Chelsea because we didn't make an offer? I seem to recall him speaking with Arsenal too, one can only imagine that his preference may have been London as well, sorry but I think you are talking crap!
Comolli spoke to Matas dad/agent twice in Madrid and Valencia, he wanted to come, we never made a bid, Kenny wanted Downing
Speaking to an agent is par for the course for any football club; have you ever heard of the term leverage? Agents use other clubs all the time to get a better deal, you may be right that at the time he wanted to come but are you really saying that once he knew Chelsea were interested and willing to give him more money he still preferred us?
Well, all I can say is you got what you wanted Day. Let's hope all that conjecture is expertise eh? I truly hope that after treating someone who has proved their loyalty to the club as poorly as this it is all worth it. No persons bigger than the club this is true . But no clubs bigger than the people who work for & support it. The new manager will get my full support & patience. Going by what I've read over the last 3 months & especially the last 24 hours he'll not enjoy the same in many other quarters of the club.
