It really does not matter who our new manager is, because certain sections of our supporters will always turn against them after a short period. We saw it happen with Kenny, the clubs greatest ever servant, how long will it take for you people to turn on the new man? If he's out of the top 4 in December? If he gets knocked out of the Europa group stage and/or carling cup? You'd be better off supporting Chelsea because you obviously have no idea how football actually works.
Agree with that. We set a precedent when we sacked Roy Hodgson after just six months. Now Kenny is no longer the manager after just eighteen months, people will start (if not already there) to expect short term success. Hell, even Rafa had to fight to win fans over and he won the Champions League and FA Cup in his first two seasons!
True Baz, would have thought that after sacking a manager for finishing mid table they would aim higher.
Well I keep reading people saying how delighted they are that FSG are ruthless and rule with an iron fist etc...makes me wonder where United would be if there board had been so ruthless 20 years ago.
I think we need to give the owners time to prove themselves too. They didn't really have much choice with Hodgson and, lets face it, Kenny's results since Christmas have been appalling and never mind the league position. The bit I am surprised about is their appointment of others in higher positions followed by their sacking so soon after such as Comolli.
I'm really not sure what gives everyone such confidence in them to be honest but time will tell if you're right. I hope you are but I fear we'll be sitting here in 12 months time saying just the opposite.
I don't think the plan was to have Kenny in for a long time too be honest. He was only ever a stop gap after Hodgson but results and fan pressure sort of made it impossible for them not to appoint him permanently. Lets be honest, 100% of Liverpool fans know Kenny is a legend and what he has done for the club and people of Liverpool will never be forgotten but we've been poor. I know performance have been encouraging and maybe with a little more luck we'd have a couple double and would have been challenging for 4th, but I can't wait for someone younger to come in with fresh ideas and shake things up a bit. If I could hand pick a manager it would be Klopp from Dortmund. Fits the mould of a young exciting manager, playing decent winning football and has a policy of bringing through youth players.
Maybe time will show us that they are not great but they certainly aren't as bad as the previous two!
They could have said that but it may have ended up being a lie. Then fans would start moaning they were being lied to and if they were lied to about that, are they being lied to about other things such as the stadium etc.. Don't get me wrong I'm still not sure how I feel about it, I can see the plus side and can see the negative. I'm just playing devils advocate as it were as I don't see how anyone can know if this is good or not. Only time will tell I guess.
I think, like most things, everything will be forgotten if someone new comes in and starts winning games. Highsight is always a wonderful thing. FSG couldn't really win, sack him and upset fans wgo worship him, or risk keeping him and spending more money with no end result.
Imo its a risk giving any manager money to spend,but there'll be no end result if a manager isn't given time see his mistakes and amend them. If for instace AVB comes in and spends money and wins nothing and doesn't qualify for the CL in his first season will FSG be as ruthless with him as with Kenny?,i doubt it. If they'd have given Kenny one more season and he'd been unsuccessful and got sacked there could be no arguments that he went to early.
Bloody hell; I really hope I can wake up with a more positive view & a little less taste of bile in my mouth over this. Everything is screaming at me that these people are wandering around in the dark. Only exception is the smoozing business side that will get us cold hard cash. Necessary but just as long as we all don't forget why.....Ach what's the point.
I said a while ago that I wasn't convinced that the owners trusted Kenny or saw him as their manager for more than two years - hence the lack of investment in the first team from them. I expected him to get another season given the improvement in performance, irrespective of results, since it was something to build on. Not the case now. But this gives FSG the opportunity to go back to what they always intended, in my opinion, a young, hungry manager who'll potentially be here for 10 years+. We know they like the Arsenal/United models and respect Barca's system also. I suspect they'll have approached Guardiola, just in case there's interest, but I doubt it'll be no more than a tentative testing of the water. AVB should be a key target given his Porto success and age, but his failure at Chelsea will count against him. He did with them, result wise, what Kenny did with us. Not sure what they'll make of that. Di matteo maybe another consideration - him and Clarke as the next partnership here - but depends what Chelsea do. Also relatively untested, he's not done much at Chelsea other than cheer them on a bit and give them a break from AVB. Bielsa would be my ideal target. Not sure what his situation at Bilbao is. Diego Simeone from Athletic Madrid is my outside bet. Really young, gifted manager who studies the game much like Bielsa and Guardiola. Could be a great option. Depends what his plans for the future are at Madrid though. ...and lastly Rafa. The bookies favourite really, but I see it as a step backwards in many ways. We need to just move on and start fresh. Then of course, we have the DoF position and the idea of a CEO role. David Dein HAS been approached and been in discussions about joining the club in some capacity - that much is certain. No idea if he's taken the offer up or not. No idea what exact role it is. Txiki begiristain lastly would be my ideal target for DoF but Cruyff would be good also. Dein, Txiki and Bielsa would be my dream setup right now...wonder what odds I could get on that.
AVB now the 2/1 favourite. http://www.betting-offers.co.uk/betting~event~Permanent-Manager~footballManager~Liverpool~39963013
AVB……looks like but my god, can we get behind him or whoever it may be. Because we are much better than this as a club! And as fans we are LIVERPOOL for god’s sake!!!
