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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by JonnyLosAngeles, May 15, 2012.

  1. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, couldn't resist. <rofl>
     
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  2. The-Don

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    there is definitely footage of every goal he scored for Man United and none of them show him kissing the badge.

    this argument will live on forever I think :)
     
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  3. MarkoLUFC

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    Like I said, it's not uncommon for the celebration to be omitted.
     
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  4. MarkoLUFC

    MarkoLUFC Well-Known Member

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    and more importantly, if for no other reason, he should be hated for his lack of hair style sense. From the bleach blonde eyesore to being a gypo...
     
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  5. The-Don

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    yeah agree he did look a tit
     
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  6. 666 & Elmo

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    My dad's dead. So I tried a seance with him - downturned wine glass, dark room, scrabble letters in a circle, mood music - then the ****ing glass broke. Cheap Morrisons ****.

    But he always used to say: it's stoopid to hate someone because you used to love them and you feel they let you down or broke a promise / vow.


    'Tis the biggest problem with society and why lawyers are so damned rich: cos stoopid human beings can't let go of their baggage.
     
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  7. xbpod

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    Apparently Ken Bates told his son Leeds are safe in his hands and he is doing his upmost to finance a push back to the prem. <somersault>
     
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  8. MarkoLUFC

    MarkoLUFC Well-Known Member

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    but ken bates word is worth less than my turds. I think he's a delusional old man and him saying "Leeds are safe in my hands" might as well be followed by him dropping a vase.
     
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  9. JonnyLosAngeles

    JonnyLosAngeles Well-Known Member

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    How about a still photograph? Many of those around, right?

    Again he scored just 7 goals for them. Look them up and do applicable searches. IF it happened, there is bound to be 1 picture out there to prove your point. If you cannot find one, perhaps it is time to recognize your dad is human just like some of the rest of us and that maybe he was mistaken.
     
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  10. 666 & Elmo

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    The following suggests that a Man U fan believes Smith kissed the Man U badge. But at least he has the maturity to know that it means nothing.

    From http://www.fivecantonas.com/badge-kissing-worked/#more-1025



    A group of fans were pretty vocal last night after Wayne Rooney kissed the badge after scoring from the penalty spot away to Otelul Galati. The argument goes that, given Wayne Rooney&#8217;s transfer request last season, he no longer has the right to kiss the badge so beloved to the fans.

    Yet more fans are repulsed by badge kissing full stop, considering to be a classless, empty gesture. Having seen their badge kissed by foreign mercenaries and ex-rival players, they just don&#8217;t want to know, and take offence at anyone who dares to kiss the badge.

    Despire this, it&#8217;s absolutely stupid that anyone gets wound up by the gesture. After all, that&#8217;s really all that it is, and an empty, hollow one at that.



    Wayne Rooney is fooling nobody. We all know that he was born an Evertonian and will remain an Evertonian at heart for all his days. Once a blue, always a blue and all that. The same is true of Alan Smith, who kissed the Leeds badge after scoring at Old Trafford the season Leeds went down, before joining us that summer and eventually kissing our badge.

    These days kissing the badge isn&#8217;t a sign of undying loyalty. It&#8217;s just an empty gesture, a nod to the fans and to the players employers. Just a goal celebration. Very few players can claim to kiss the badge out of love for their clubs.

    Instead, the majority kiss the badge out of lust.

    Take Frank Lampard. He&#8217;s been slobbering all over the Chelsea crest since 2003, but didn&#8217;t love the club enough to accept wages of any less than £130&#8217;000 per week. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Gary Neville, in contrast, never asked for pay rises. They genuinely had affection for the club they represented. They would never heave dreamed of indulging in bloody-minded brinksmanship to secure an eye-watering pay-day.

    It&#8217;s not just in the megabucks Premier League that this goes on. Kris Commons recently spent season after season kissing the Nottingham Forest badge but then, when a slightly improved contract offer came along, jumped ship on a Bosman to mortal rivals Derby County.

    Are we really surprised, though? Commons, a Scotsman, has no inbuilt loyalty to either side &#8211; they&#8217;re just employers paying their wage. Rooney isn&#8217;t a United fan any more than I&#8217;m the queen of Denmark, yet he&#8217;s paid an extorionate amount to perform his best for us. That buys his loyalty in the way that a pair of fake tits and a miniskirt grab our attention. There&#8217;s nothing meaningful there but, my god, don&#8217;t we fool ourselves that there is!

    This is the case with players, paid what they are. It&#8217;s very easy for Rooney to feel affection for a club paying him every month more than the majority of people make in their lifetime. He kisses the badge because he likes the lifestyle, the money, the glory. There&#8217;s no deeper meaning there, not in the way that there is with us.

    Just like when you got your first car and pulled the hot student who you thought was the one, the affection is only genuinely one way. When you kissed that student, you felt genuine, you felt brilliant, it felt so, so right. She didn&#8217;t though. She was only with you for the car and the money. Do you remember how difficult it was to get your head around how you could feel one way, but she could feel completely different.

    That&#8217;s exactly what we have here. Badge kissing means one thing to us and something entirely different to players. We should accept the gesture for what it is &#8211; quite literally lip service.
     
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  11. ristac

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    You kiss your girlfriend but it isn't love till you knob them ;)
     
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  12. 666 & Elmo

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    Check out the following clips

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VK_ttdmFhU
    v Arsenal, Charity Shield

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_T0yotVfm4&feature=related
    [Brill music on this clip, and the way Shearer goaded Keane (after 3 mins) is brill too].
    Goal 1: No idea who against: after 1 minute
    Goal 2: V Blackburn after 1:51
    Goal 3: V Middlesbrough after 3 mins he wipes his nose on the badge &#8211; maybe that is what people are claiming?
    Goal 4: v Norwich, after 3:31
    I think there is a header after 30 seconds too &#8211; v Crystal Palace. Clip further down shows no badge kissing.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQD8MPz28Ck&feature=related
    After 44 seconds, Smith kisses his hand and blows it to the Man U fans after scoring
    Goal after 1 minute &#8211; no idea who against, no kissing
    Two goals &#8211; 1:20 v no idea and 1:28 v Charlton &#8211; no celebrations shown
    Goal after 2:06 &#8211; no badge kissing
    Goal after 3 mins &#8211; v no idea


    I tell you what though, we could do with some of that bloody steel in our team!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g18yBIPmKw4&feature=related
    v Roma, all way through, no badge kissing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQeeRfoE5zw&feature=related
    v Norwich, 2 mins &#8211; no badge kssing
    v Charlton, 2:10, no badge kissing


    But still I do not find a clip of Smith kissing the badge of Man U after scoring, and I have found much more than just 7 goals scored by him for Man U on youtube

    Try this one?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1ULlP65jCA&feature=related
    Yeah, maybe he does kiss the badge on this clip. Not.


    The only badge Smith appears to have EVER kissed or even acknowledged after scoring is the Leeds United badge.

    Alan Smith is Leeds United through and through. No other club comes close to his affections. I don&#8217;t think he likes some of the fans we have though.

    I do not believe ANYONE who claims he kissed the scum badge until I have seen it. NOTHING in the clips above show he has ever thought to go close to the badge after scoring. He holds his arms out usually and takes the adulation.
     
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  13. Old Peacock

    Old Peacock Well-Known Member

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    Marko as always you are over opinionated and wrong, but don't blame yourself it is clearly hereditary :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  14. Carmine Galante.

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    I think you're right on both counts.

    Smith did kiss the badge and Whitecock is a prick.

    He studied religion for forty years or something.
    That actually makes him more of a boring **** but prick is near enough.

    <laugh>
     
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  15. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    Your mum's spelling is getting much better. Perhaps she can give up special school now and give you her place?
     
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  16. Jerel Ifil

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    Alan Smith's Leeds through and through and he celebrated passionately when he scored for the scum? Righto.

    S'pose Sol Campbell's Spurs through and through as well then. :)

    Thank God I've let go of all that baggage. Now I don't have to have any principles at all, and just get to mindlessly like/tolerate everything, even when it's repulsive. Happy days.
     
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  17. MarkoLUFC

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    The Rooney situation isn't the same as the Smith situation. He's not kissing the badge of a club he claimed he would never play for if it was entirely his own choice. I have no problem with him putting 110%, it's his job, but if you're really Leeds you'd never kiss their badge or even celebrate a goal. He's supposed to be Leeds and has proven he isn't. It's not an "empty gesture", it's just seeing his true colours that he doesn't really care that much.
     
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  18. 666 & Elmo

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    I guess we're not going to agree on this one Marko / Iqbal.

    I see no problem with a player playing for any club and most players never get the chance to play for the club they support. I see no problem with a player celebrating a goal - any goal - for any club. Putting the ball in the net is the job of a striker, you have added to the scoreline which is exactly what football is all about, and the crowd roars and you feel f'ing brilliant. Even without the crowd roaring at my local 5-a-side I love scoring goals.

    So you can be "one team through and through" while playing for another team or moving to another team. And you can celebrate scoring for that other team. Being a professional footballer means you have to put all your energy and commitment into the cause of the club you are contracted to at that time.

    I would suggest that kissing the badge should only undertaken if you actually are a supporter of the club in question. And seeing as Smith clearly never kissed the badge of MUFC, and only ever kissed the badge of LUFC, that suggests to me he is - and remains - LUFC through and through.

    And for him to play for Man U, that suggests he is also a professional.
     
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  19. Jerel Ifil

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    The crowd might roar, but in this instance, it was a crowd of Mancs who sing about hating 'Leeds scum' almost every game and have a deep-seated rivalry with us. It's not like he joined Hull or Barnsley, is it? It's scum. Maybe I just hate them more than other people, but I think they're a pimple on the face of football, and there are so many reasons aside from goal celebrations that Smith is a Judas scumbag. I listed them a while back, and I'm sure that it's possible to come up with excuses for them like people do for Bates, but ultimately, when someone does as many anti-Leeds things as Smith has, it's pretty certain they're anti-Leeds. Not just like he threw the odd shirt-flinging strop like Yeboah did, which he can be forgiven for.

    In short, I'm not sure why a failed third-division hacker is being discussed any more.
     
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  20. Whiteyorkist

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    Regarding Smith, I could have accepted him going to Scum if it wasn't for the interview on Changing Rooms...

    [video=youtube;60NNSwKxc0g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60NNSwKxc0g[/video]
     
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