I hope not. It's that kind of short term attitude that has got the club to this position. They should be looking for visible signs of progress and consistency in the league and in the cups. Make an assessment after 2 seasons at least.
To be frank, frank- if there is a good time to be leaderless, surely this is it. We have the summer to try and sort it out and I'd rather that than it be a couple of weeks before the season, or during it. I don't really agree with the decision, but it's not mine to make. So I'll continue to hope for the best until proven wrong.
Higher than 6th. The person who mentioned that this is our worst season in 54 years is spot on. That will be what influenced the owners.
But there are no football men at the club at the minute who you would say are qualified to appoint a manager
Is it confirmed that Ian Ayre has left also? Hearing rumours that he's being axed as well... At least the dinner ladies are safe (for now!)
Although its sad to see Kenny leave. I quite like the ruthlessness of our owners - they want success, that's clear. They seem shrewd businessmen that will honour their word. They wanted top 4 when they arrived, they didn't get it so they acted. For me too many people are doubting managers that could infact do a great job. And comparing people like Martinez and Rogers to Hodgson is ridiculous. Hodgson has an old school approach of defend, defend, defend, and hope for the best. Whereas these new young managers have an attacking mentality, exactly what we need. Especially if Steve Clarke stays as he's probably the best defensive coach in the league. I understand people think it's too risky to appoint Martinez - but for me I really believe it could work, He's a young seasoned ambitious PL manager that's done wonders under pressure at lets face it a pretty dire club. With financial backing I believe he could be at the helm for years to come........ obviously he needs to get the job first!
I put this in another thread and thought I'd put it here to. Stadium - The new owners have been working hard to look into this. They actually spend millions on stopping Hicks and Gillettes stadium plans from ages ago because they were unrealistic. They have spoken repeatedly to Liverpool councel and the local community about the possibility of redevoping Anfield and the possibilities of Stanley Park. Spending - When we sold Robbie Keane, Rafa expected the funds to buy a replacement. But instead H&G pocketed it and we never saw it again. H&G took money away from us and greated mamoth debths that almost destroyed us forever. Since the new owners took over, they have paid of every penny of those debts. Our club is safe and free to build a bright future. Under H&G we would have never got to spend the Torres money on two new strikers, let alone in the same day as we got it. The money we got from other transfers out would have gone to RBS and we would have spend closer to £20million than £120million. But our debts are gone, so we can spend with freedom. Why should FSG put there own money on transfers if the club already has enough profits already? They also announced Kenny could spend in January. Sacking managers - You take over an under achieving club with no faith in its manager and a risk of relegation or a player exile. What would you do? Your club then has its worse season in 54 years when you set targets to improve. What would you do? We owe so much to these owners already that they should have a banner in the cop. Which will grow to a giant banner when we win the league. Mark Hughes was doing pretty well at City. But would they be where they are if they hadnt sacked him? I think not. I would have happily seen Kenny get another season. But I understand the owners decision and stand by them.
Ian Ayre is still at the club. He was just on the news thanking Kenny and saying he (Ayre) and the club begin the search for a new man tomorrow morning.
That's good to know, at least. It means we have SOME form of consistancy in the club, a genuine fan and a scouser at that. I feel happier about us making the right appointment if he's involved
What's the long term plan then? Hope its better than the long term plan they put in place initially beacause if sacking managers every 18 months is a ****ing long term plan we are way up **** creek without a ****ing boat nevermind a paddle
I don't really have any personal sentiment towards Kenny, he's from the era when I was more concerned with deciding which teddy bear's arm I was going to pull off first, and I still maintain that he should have had at least another season to see what he can produce. Said it before and I'll say it again, our football was good and we had lots of positives! We should give managers time. This sets a bad precident.
Fair point about H&G however your point about the 54 years is wrong AND unfair simply because the vast majority of Liverpools managers over that period have taken over teams that whilst not always champions certainly had a solid base to build on. The likelihood of them getting a banner on the Kop isn't particularly likely at the moment. What have we got to thank them for yet? They paid the debt off as a business decision not a favour. And basically they've overseen one of the most chaotic seasons in our history which only doesn't look quite so bad because H&G are still so fresh in the memory. Man City have thrown vast amounts of money at the club and staff. Will ours do the same? No...even if they wanted to they can't now anyway. Lots of cash spent on consultant and planning fees but still no plan for a ground or redevelopment. Granted we don't want false promises but a few signs of progress wold be nice. I admire your loyalty for standing by the owners. I just wish they'd shown some of that same loyalty to our (former) manager
the reality here is no matter what clutching at straws are made..... sorry but the statement is cheap words. words like solid foundation etc etc are rubbish. You se the objective evidence is fsg have purged the club of just about every staff member going. The appointments made to positions has been from within... and the youth strucutre so many laud has been tinkered with to fill gaps at reserve level. As we speak the medial staff, the communications staff, the coaching staff and board of directors have been purged.... no replacements. One can only sit back and watch and wait to see what happens next.
When asked if we had already been active in looking for a new manager, Ian Ayre said.."Not at the moment, no," Ayre told Sky Sports "We come back tomorrow and look for a new appointment, that's when we start on that." If true, I find that quite alarming...sacking people without replacements even being considered. Surely this can't be right?
Ian Ayre is a scouser and has been a matchgoing red all his life,but he has to bite his lip and tow the company line if wants to keep his job. But its blatantly obvious the baseball experts haven't got a scooby about footy or they have an American 'soccer expert' advising them. Probably Bluff.
