If they did it deliberately to gain an advantage by making the car a few kg's lighter but knew they couldn't do 3 laps with it, then someone needs a good ass-kicking there. All will become clear later. Maybe for all we know it was hyraulic leak like for Kobayahsi or some other small problem they spotted and didn;t want to risk further damage by driving back to the pits? We're all jumping on the bandwagon a bit, so le'ts breath and wait to see what the real story is.
The thing is, after Canada 2010(?) there was a big meeting and it was agreed that the car had to be able to get back to the pits and give a fuel sample. Regardless of the rights and wrongs, the fuel sample is part of the rules and if you cant give it (or you minipulate the situation in order to do so) then you should be punished - sometimes a litre of fule could be the difference. I feel the same when driver pull over afger finishing the race - for me if you cant get back to the pit for fuel reasons - then thats tough. Having ranted, I do feels sorry for Lewis because its not his fault and his lap was awesome!
You are saying its Hamilton;s fault, if it's a fuel thing. My point is its a McLaren **** up if that is the case. Again, he was told to pull over. Not his decision. Not his fault.
Mclaren got away with it in Canada, so I say not this time. I know it's not Lewis' fault but it ****s off other people having McLaren push their luck by underfueling their drivers just to get pole. I think he would of made it regardless so I don't understand why they have to do it... Pay fines don't cut it anymore 75,000 is **** all to the millions they make in getting pole.
Does the same rule apply for the slowing down lap after the race? have been a few instances this year of cars not making it back to parc ferme under their own steam for one reason or another.
And that someone is Hamilton. I don't understand your perspective at all. Do you think they should root out another Dave Ryan for sacrifice?
Valid point, but you would have thought the MW would have stated that rather than being so shady about an explantion. The next question is, what if they stop it because of a problem that hasnt happend and by doing so are able to give the fule sample they wouldn't have been able to give if they continued normally? Does that make it right?
kathikeyan had a mechanical issue. Only set a time in one of the practice sessions but was well within 107% so they may let him race.
It's the tone of 'Hamilton's fault' that is wrong. Yes he shoudl get penalised if the TEAM ****ed up, but the inference that he has cheated is not correct. That's my perspective. I know lots woudl love him to be penalised and shout from teh rooftops that he has 'cheated' but what could he do about the situation? Get out of his car and fuel it up himself? (if it is a fuel issue)
"Frustrated with Felipe, only 17th, stuck in traffic, with a "clean" run could have been closer to tenth."
Depends if it was a genuine mechanical issue. If they have faked one and the rules say he has to get into parc ferme under his own steam then his time should get scrubbed. Those who are aching for a total dsq are miles out. Just love the hate.
I think what this whole Hmilton fiasco shows is that McLaren as a team really suck. Great car, great drivers, terrible strategy.
No, I dont think the rule applies although it frustrates me. When the car gets back to Parc ferme nobody (except authorised persoanl) are allowed to touch the vehicle until it has bee weighed etc... If it stops out on track, what stops somebody interfering with the car, in the past mechanics have put lead weight into the car etc after races? For me the car at all times must make it back to Parc Ferme, just to satisfy the rules of scrutinering. Just my opinion.
Thanks. I'll have to try to see it. I always believed he'd come good but tomorrow's what counts. As for Lewis, has he been penalised or is this just speculation?
I'd go along with that. Don;t know if some days they just try to be too clever and out do themselves when they really have no need to.
If a penalty is awarded to Hamilton, it is clearly the result of some team error (of which he is a part). However, in the absence of concrete facts, the suggestion that Hamilton "cheated" (as presented earlier in this thread by someone) is going too far. Indeed, it's virtually libellous.
