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Formula 1 Gran Premio de España Santander 2012 Chat and Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by u408379965, May 8, 2012.

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Who will be victorious in Spain?

Poll closed May 10, 2012.
  1. Sebastian Vettel

    23.3%
  2. Lewis Hamilton

    46.7%
  3. Mark Webber

    6.7%
  4. Jenson Button

    13.3%
  5. Fernando Alonso

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Nico Rosberg

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Kimi Raikkonen

    6.7%
  8. Romain Grosjean

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Sergio Perez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Paul di Resta

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Bruno Senna

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Kamui Kobayashi

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Jean Eric Vergne

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Michael Schumacher

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Other (Please state)

    3.3%
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  1. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    What's that ridge on Hamilton's nose? It looks like like they're trying to emulate the step. Is there an air inlet on it?

    With a number of teams using their various air pressure sensors it looks more like the end of the Mugello test than first practice for the Spanish GP.
     
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  2. Delete Me

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    Ahhh I think that bridge is more or less to copy the height of the RBR nose design I reckon, and they're checking to see how well the drivers can see the track if it was there.
     
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  3. genjigonzales

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    Ah, maybe...

    What plate?

    Hey look - F1.com's Live Timing has commentary.
     
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    I didn't see any holes on the plate, but did you see something on the side pods, it's like another indent from the fron to the back of the sidepod to direct the air over the exhaust. They also put covers on top so we couldn't get a closer look.
     
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  5. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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    FFS BBC!!!

    What flag did grosjean have beind him on the podium in bahrain???
     
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    Another exhaust layout for RBR I think, the outlet looks wider compared to Mugello.
     
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    If McLaren are going to go the full hog with this higher nose/higher chassis thing then I would say that, at least from a particular perspective, they must be the worst car design outfit on the grid, maybe even including HRT.

    For years they've championed the lower chassis approach and now that the regulations are swinging towards them with other teams potentially trailing in their wake, they've apparently decided that it's wrong and they should just copy what everyone else is doing. Practically speaking, of course, at this point in time that's a sensible solution but it reveals an unhealthy level of pre-season arrogance to stick to a design that is so far out of kilter with the obvious prevailing solution.

    I think McLaren are in big trouble.
     
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    With all those upgrades they might be.
     
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    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I? Forum Moderator

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    I was thinking this too when I heard the high nose job. Its even worse that the car had been designed lower for the last 2 years to facilitate the new nose rules. How many more times can Mclaren get it wrong?
     
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    Both RB drivers look to be fighting the car a lot around here.
     
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    Lewis using the new nose now.
     
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    Whitmarsh really should write a book on how to lose a championship.
     
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  13. genjigonzales

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    With a lower chassis, particularly the bulkhead, and therefore less room to manoeuvre in influencing airflow under the car, I could understand how introducing a higher nose might help to mitigate this disadvantage. I wouldn't therefore say the new nose in itself is indicative of panic. Whitmarsh has apparently said that the ridge on the nose is simply to help assess driver visibility on the current car because Button has complained a bit about not being able to see. If, as SilverArrow and Gary Anderson suspect, it's actually to help assess driver visibility for a new design, given the big commitment that would be required to introduce a new car, then I think there's something very, very wrong in Woking.
     
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    Alonso.

    Top.

    Not by much and it's only practice but...

    Alonso.

    Top.
     
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    Yeah I don't believe that BS that it's for next years car, more like come silverstone a whole brand new chassis is revealed with a DDRS.
     
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    In one run too! Hopefully that pace is genuine
     
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  17. genjigonzales

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    OK, now it's by much. 0.378s.
     
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    Ferrari diffuser comparison courtesy of @Crucial_Xtreme:

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    Don't think Seb is going to allow him though.
     
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