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I know it's sad Nick's been sacked, but...

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  1. Leeds Met Tiger

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    We need to move on now. Saying that we won't be renewing season tickets is daft and definitely doesn't help the players at all. We're Hull City fans, we've been through much worse than this and need the backing behind the team! With a new manager hopefully we can progress on and make the play offs in 2013.

    Keep the faith! :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  2. Totally HCAFC

    Totally HCAFC Active Member

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    Once you read the statement you can actually sum up whats gone on.

    The Allams did allow Barmby and AP funds to bring in a good quality striker to push for promotion, they didn't take that option up and didn't reach the play offs. So under the circumstances who's to blame? NB for not taking the money and wanting to sign a striker! As well as the media comments, will happen in any work place, slag off the boss, then your off mate.

    It is sad, theres no hiding that but it just the way it works. Im wanting Lee Clarke to come in now and man manage these players just like Nick did and get the team behind him. UTT
     
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  3. Leeds Met Tiger

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    Well I have read the statement, but in my eyes there's no point pondering over it to be honest. If what the Allam's is saying is true then yeah it is Nick's fault but IMO it's still sad that he's leaving.

    Completely agree with the last two sentences though.
     
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    because, of course, that statement is the gospel truth.
     
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    it is very sad day for city and nicky b,i know people will slate me but their is only one to take over for me....... step forward mr brown
     
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    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    If you believe everthing everybody tells you,espescialy where money is involved,you are in for a rough time !
     
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  7. Hull City Wok Tiger

    Hull City Wok Tiger Active Member

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    Of course its Nicks fault lets just move on, these Allams, well they gave us so much money they must be right! DJH what will you do when the players speak out, do you think they should all be sacked?
     
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  8. Newland Tiger

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    I can see that working well , Phil Brown is one of those managers who just quietly goes about their business and avoids the media spotlight isn't he ? he would have probably just said 'no comment' in those interviews
     
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  9. hullborn

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    I believe the statement. makes perfect sense to me. its also what most of us have been thinking since January.

    Money WAS available. Barmby WAS telling the truth in his end of Jan interview about him being happy with the squad and that if we didnt reach the playoff's "On my head be it" he said...

    its sad but if this was anyone other than nick, we'd all be saying the allams have every right to let him go.

    also what makes it worse for nick was his interviews later in the year saying the allams really need to back him financially... he's contradicting himself there... cause a few months earlier he had money to spend but didnt want to... its like he's trying to shift the blame onto the allams and they've called him on it.
     
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  10. Hull City Wok Tiger

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    Yep, of course I always believe one side of the argument, as we should all do. Walk like an Egyptian City sheep!
     
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  11. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

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    or they would release the funds for billy sharp becuase he was the talk of the allam marine lunchbreak room, so they had heard of him, but wouldnt release funds for players they havent heard of....pretty much everybody else??
     
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  12. Hull City Wok Tiger

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    City1904 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly!

    Why can't it be that funds where available in January but not for those who Nick wanted, or that the deals he wanted didn't come off. Why does it have to be a witch hunt?
     
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  14. juleskaren

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    Read the original piece in the HDM again. Billy Sharp was a name they had heard, oh how very convenient for them to just pluck this name out and say Nick could have him. If Nick didn't want him then he had his reasons, he wanted other players and they would not sanction those deals, they can say all they like now cos Nick has not been allowed to speak out. If money was available then presumably it would still be available in the Summer so why the heck did Nick feel like he had to publicly say he hoped there would be. Come on all you Allam backers just think for a bit. Do you believe the Allams just because they have put money into the club. It is probably a case of them telling a bit of the truth but not all of it, it will definitely not be as simple as their statement made out.
     
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    take this: "Having been prepared to give Nick his first opportunity in football management,"

    = "having leaned on nick till he reluctantly gave in"
     
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    None of us will ever know exactly what has gone on between the Allams / AP/ NB. Whoever is our next manager, he and everyone who wears the black and amber shirt needs our support so let's not go down the "give up your season pass" route
     
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  17. jimhcafc

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    I've followed hull since when my dad first took me to watch em when I was 4 in 1981 and have followed them through some dodgy times being led by some dodgy people and have always had the mentality as in the OP. But for me this is the single most disgraceful act that has been carried out by anyone associated with the club and I am finding it very difficult to support the club as you're suggesting at this time. The quicker the allams **** off and leave this club the better. Totally gutted, for the first time in my life I am questioning my support for the club.
     
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  18. The B&S Fanclub

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    Does that rule out the chance of Jack Barmby on loan? I assume it does..shame that. Looks like a big star in the making.
     
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  19. Steven Toast

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    Nick didn't have to take the job, he could have said no, but the board did it because they thought that's what the fans would have wanted. They persuaded him and he took it. He obviously did something to piss them off or we wouldn't be in the situation we are in now. Whoever comes in now won't have the same problem because they won't (hopefully) make the same mistakes, Nick was a rookie and while mistakes can be made, I honestly think the league standing in January played a part. We were only 3pts of automatic promotion, didn't sign a striker and ended up 8th; a really ambitious board will make this decisions, as I'm sure we will see at Leicester over the summer.
     
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  20. RicardoHCAFC

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    I don't understand why you're having to assume ill intent on that point on every thread as though they're lieing about it.

    The Allams have said they want value for money from signings. They see their customers clamouring for Billy Sharp or another striker, and decide pleasing the customers would be good value. I don't see why that has to be plucked out of thin air for an interview several months later rather than an honest comment. When Barmby said no, and said he wanted to spend the same on wingers that none of the customers were asking for, and where they were already paying for Brady, Stewart, King, and Garcia, at least 2 of which were signed for Barmby (King, and Brady's extension) it was inevitable they wouldn't see the value for money.

    Stupidity on football matters isn't a good thing for the owners of a football club to struggle with, I just don't see the need for assuming they're lieing because of it.
     
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