A few months ago A few months ago I had no confidence in Dalglish at all.. He put a new side together (which I admit was needed if we intended to manage the club without Rafa). I was also sensible to realize that these players would not gel together straight away; this would simply be stupid. What annoyed me is the fact that up till 2 months ago, the players did not even show any sparks of what a team the could be together in the future. Around the time of the "Racist Suarez" Fiasco we looked simply foolish.. Our primary system was built around an unstable player and when he did not play Kenny did not show any signs that he knew what to do! We played different systems each week: From playing stoke off the park one week (and failing to get the result) to playing very differently the next; there was no fluency at all in our play. It was like they did not have a captain or a manger. THIS IS THE PROBLEM ME AND COUNTLESS OTHERS HAVE WITH KENNY; and this was evident in the amount of anti-Kenny supporters that turned up on the forum. The biggest example of this lack of managing and lack of fluency was at the Newcastle game; this resulted on One Steven Gerrard actually waving our manager: Kenny Dalglish off the pitch and Andy Carroll being allowed to sulk off down the tunnel without anyone being sent to calm him down! Then it changed However; I have had to eat my words in recent weeks. In the last 2 months the way we have played has been very positive. We often play teams of the park and if we do not, we give them one hell of a game! Kenny seems to have found the style in which he can get the others to play in. And the fluency is starting to come. Although we still lack goals. It is Kennys responsibility in the summer to use the funds (or raise them) to buy another player who can finish. Unless we start scoring none of this progress matters. I for one still am not convinced by Kenny Dalglish this year; he has shown far too much of his bad side than the good this season. However after what I've seen; if it was up to me (which would be stupid) I would give him another year; this could still be part of his master plan! And these young players could turn out miraculously next year. But we do need goals; and Kenny is making everyone nervous.
Some of you LFC fans are clearly blind as ****. What has he done, I would type it but their isnt enough room on the internet.... Joking aside though hes not been good enough, you can point to cups but hes made so many errors everywhere. Maybe he rectifies them maybe he doesnt. Chances are hes going and he ranks amongst legends like Roy Evans more than the Shanks of the world this time round.
The same morons who wanted Hodgson out for doing not much worse ( playing style aside ). Its a results business, dont get the results and you suddenly find yourself ****ed, Kenny has been one of the 3 worst managers in the league since january. That is all you need to know really. Put it this way, it may hit home, us United fans, we hope he stays, we really hope he stays.
I was a little to young to have much of an opinion over his early years 4deck. Why dont you all list negatives and positives over Kennys season/reign. Clearly hes done some good, no body is denying that but football is a results business as I said and hes not getting them. Also, as I have said, Fergie, Kenny....different people, different era. Kenny would of got sacked had he had Fergies form in 1986-1990. I have no doubt about that. Fergie would probably be leaving this summer if we had just had Liverpools season.
"Yer a Wum" "I'm here for discussion" "yer obsessed with LFC" "I have a thread on here somewhere" "this isn't it" "I have rights you know" "we don't care about your views of our club, manager, players, choice of the colour red, name of City, preference for birds over men with pointy horns" "I'm going to tell you anyway" "get it over with then" "wait until I cut and paste one of my other sly digs" "ah, your right, I read that one before" Well that about covers this thread now. Good discussion UIR!
Camolli paid to much for players and the players crumbled under the pressure of living up to their price tag. The new players all had to settle in and gel, which is harder with the pressure I mentioned above. Lucas getting injured was the big deal.
Any chance of you pointing out some of these errors (I know you will have to google it and then copy and paste but at least it will keep you off here for a few minutes.)
it amazes me that some people just don't know anything about football...for football supporters. If each player had little electrodes on their heads, and Kenny had a remote control to control them all, then I can accept a direct link between poor results and a poor manager. However in reality, a football match is much like a motion picture, it is not the vision of a single man, he can tell people how he wants things, but people interpret things differently, and unless you are a total megalomaniac, you just don't have that level of control, the camera man will do his thing, the lighting guy does his, and the actors create their character. Same with football matches. Kenny isn't out there causing Downing to bottle it against the right-back, causing Carroll to be waiting for the ball in the half way line. All Kenny can do is train the players, but end of the day, if they are too thick to grasp the lessons, what can Kenny do. You can only judge any manager when he has total control in the transfer market, and has transfer windows to move the bad ones on and get good ones in. But even then, some players should set the world on fire, and just don't. Each and every club has had players come in, only to fail completely, and it is so hard to judge that before hand. Do you blame managers for players like Shevchenko, Forlan, Aquilani or Veron? Every manager makes transfers that don't work, you can't judge them on that, only what happens when the season is over, and they can correct things.
Not picking the right team or utilising the best set up to get the best out of your attacking players. Little things like that or a bad substitution or rotating players. Plus when you have everyone outside 8 of your starting 11 not really bothered then you know somethings up. Terrif, you may not like it but I am not far off the mark here. Time to say thanks for the carling cup Kenny and the memories but time to move on, I would think he knows himself. Just a case of whether he feels up to the task of changing it all around.
A manager does exactly what it says on the tin. He manages, he is first and foremost responsible for the team on the pitch. They are not the only ones responsible but they play a huge part and should be ready for stick if things are going badly as should the players. I mean we are talking players who refuse to play for managers, not the most professional bunch at all ( some under roy and some recently under Kenny, think Fulham ) and there must be a reason for this. In terms of transfers if you are manager and you are not responsible for transfers then you should walk out of the job. Its the managers team not the DOF. Managers make mistakes in the market but its tough to find any positives for Kenny. Suarez......its debatable I think, sure hes got the talent but sometimes, the final being one of those games its like hes not even there. Carrolls picking up but they would be 2 of the better ones.
1. Paid a bucket load of money for one of the most naturally gifted strikers I have ever seen and didn't buy anyone who could put the ball on his head. Play him up front and keep putting the ball to his feet when in the air everyone knows he is deadly... 2. Stood by a racist. 3. Paid WAY over the odds for Downing and Henderson and probably couldn't be sold on for more than a few million each. (You are now stuck with them) 4. Stood by a racist. 5. Has no idea about how modern football is played and refuses to change even when its obvious that its not working for him. 6. Stood by a racist.
The guys on Skysportsnews raised a decent point on Sunday.... The midfield is VERY weak at Liverpool - Essien cant get into the Chelsea team yet he would walk into Liverpools first Eleven and probably be the captain. Dogleash bought the wrong players and has wasted ALOT of money.
TBH I will credit Kenny for his stance on Suarez much more than I would credit Chelseas stance on players who have done wrong, they just tell them to **** off.
He looked good i a Newcastle shirt mate, he was winning praise right left and centre at our place and then he goes to Liverpool and he becomes a laughing stock. On his day with the right service on the wings Carrol is unplayable. But what do I know... Liverpool play the ball into his feet and then slag him off for being ****! lol
