Wow, first it was IRWT, then no one is bigger than the club, then IKKWT, then no one is bigger than the club, the kenny is bigger, no he is not. **** sake, I am unhappy about it but I believe everyone no matter what status, should get a chance to right his wrongs. If in January Kenny has lost it still, then ya, maybe it might be time to look around but a chance to get it right. I have been critical of Kenny as well mind, just like I have been critical of players, etc. But he deserves a chance ( like all managers) to get it right. If he has not lost the dressing room then a few new signings could be good. We shall see, it will be exciting. I am trying my best to look at the positives. But with that being said, having a go at those who have an opinion just splits things and doesn't help to add to the unity. So telling them how wrong they are and plastic they are will make us all unite? **** it will, it will just polarize it even more. At least ask why and have a debate.
Ooh, I was just reading this thread wondering where certain people were and hey presto! Never mind eh? My opinion hasn't changed from mid week. Only two games to go & then let the owners decide who should stay or go. They've shown ruthlessness before . Today's match? We only turned up with 25 to go because of player a lot of supporters thought was rubbish & heart wasn't in it. Apparently he's not & apparently he cares. All good for next year. The other 70? We looked terrified of losing. Errors will go down as costing us this game but I'll point to the increasing lethargy from two of our so called heroes. Time for Captain "fantastic" to go . Yet another game where he disappeared. Fair enough he's gave his all for club in the past but its the past. if you want to wear the armband KEEP giving your all or take it off. Same with Reina, he's looked like he can't be arsed this season. Well in that case: f*ck off. All the other players I believe have gave to their level of ability with one exception (& that's all season not just yesterday). Are some of them good enough for the first 11 or squad? I have doubts about some but hey, we couldn't just ditch 20 players last year & mistakes in the transfer market happen to the very best of Managers. Downing should be sold. For two reasons; 1) Attitude: he's rubbish that thinks he's great, I watched in shock yesterday at the arrogance of his interviews & yet he plays like he did yet again. 2) it will show if KD is the right man for the job. He's made mistakes this year but if he sells Downing he shows that he can admit & correct them & move on. I personally think KD has come a long way in doing what was his mission: stabilize the club & lay the ground work for recovery. He admits himself he wasn't the long term future. But guys, look at where we were 18 months ago. I think some people are already complacent about the idea we were a couple of short steps away from not existing or at least being a Rangers! Please stop and really think about this. You could be watching a league without LFC in it. We were that Close. So: let the owners review wether they believe money well spent this year & whether they trust KD enough to give him more. If not; I yet again thank the man for his love, passion & loyalty to our club. If he's still there next year I hope I'm good enough to show the same commitment as a fan as he does as a Manager. Anyone thinking we're worse off than last year? Just watch England this summer to remind yourself what could have been.
I'm neither a WUM or a Liverpool supporter but you were crap until Carroll came on, but not good enough on thr day. You deluded pricks think you have a divine right to win everything, have a look at the league table, for all the money spent you'll be lucky to finish in eighth position.
It's where his 11 year old "wife" is from. Can't see it lasting to be honest: she turns 12 next month.
Well, that's strange. Because from what I saw we only started playing when Carroll came on. OK, we had a goal disallowed. Before that though we were poor. That's how I see it.
Where does all this self-righteous anger from the anti-Kenny brigade come from? Just go back a couple of weeks and look at some of the posts that these self-same people were posting - which even if certain words were not used doubted the intelligence or even sanity of those who opposed their point of view. If you dish it out then be prepared to take it back! Now to the topic in hand. Yes questions need to be asked and answered by ALL members of the club and that includes the owners. We have 1 cup, secured European football for next season, reached the final of another, played more attractive football than we have for years and yet the season cannot be counted as a success. We knew before a ball was kicked this season that our team was a work in progress. We now know more about the strengths and weaknesses of that squad. Hopefully both the owners and the management have a clearer idea as to what has to be done to make next season more successful. Forget what the 'pundits' say and just ignore the wums. Our squad still has the basis of a really good side within it. They will be even stronger next season for the fire that they have had to endure both on and off the pitch this season. If any of them want to bale-out then let them. We need a squad base that is committed to the cause. We also need to add more quality to the squad and that has to be addressed over the Summer. From the present squad, I would defend some, caution others and only castigate one. Adam has come in for major criticism and abuse. I truly believe that he has had a very bad case of second season syndrome. You don't go from being the player that he was with Blackpool to the hapless individual he became before his injury without some thing being certainly wrong. Carroll showed us yesterday in 25 minutes the power skill and commitment that we have been waiting for all season. If he is prepared to do that consistently next season then he can shove the "what a waste of money" taunters back up their own arseholes! Gerrard is no longer the Captain Fantastic of yesteryear. He can't cover every position on the pitch and he can't play in central midfield and attempt to be the ace in the hole at the same time. He shines a bright light on our CM inadequacies. Spearring will run through brick walls for you but that is not enough. I doubt he will ever develop into anything more than a good squad player. Henderson is not a DM, nor is he a faux winger. What he can develop into is a later-day Jimmy Case/Brian Hall - a water carrier. Every team needs one. Sure he has to be more decisive in his final pass/shot selection but he's learning. Shelvy I don't know about yet. For me, it is clear that Kuyt has now lost a yard. Whilst I admire his work and commitment I do think that it's time to say goodbye. Maxi I believe has already said that he wants to return home. Whilst Carra believes that he has more seasons in him I think that he's become a liability and is acting as a block to Kelly and Coates who need more experience. Bellamy, I believe, can only be relied upon as a shock player and is no longer a starter. That leaves Downing who I think should be sold. Turning to Dalglish. Sure he has made mistakes this season. However, he has started a project and I would like to see him given the opportunity to bring it to fruition. I would also like to hear a clear statement of intent from the owners on both the side and the stadium.
Ooh, I was just reading this thread wondering where certain people were and hey presto! Never mind eh? My opinion hasn't changed from mid week. Only two games to go & then let the owners decide who should stay or go. They've shown ruthlessness before . Today's match? We only turned up with 25 to go because of player a lot of supporters thought was rubbish & heart wasn't in it. Apparently he's not & apparently he cares. All good for next year. The other 70? We looked terrified of losing. Spot on. Errors will go down as costing us this game but I'll point to the increasing lethargy from two of our so called heroes. Time for Captain "fantastic" to go . Yet another game where he disappeared. Fair enough he's gave his all for club in the past but its the past. if you want to wear the armband KEEP giving your all or take it off. Same with Reina, he's looked like he can't be arsed this season. Well in that case: f*ck off. All the other players I believe have gave to their level of ability with one exception (& that's all season not just yesterday). Are some of them good enough for the first 11 or squad? I have doubts about some but hey, we couldn't just ditch 20 players last year & mistakes in the transfer market happen to the very best of Managers. Downing should be sold. For two reasons; 1) Attitude: he's rubbish that thinks he's great, I watched in shock yesterday at the arrogance of his interviews & yet he plays like he did yet again. 2) it will show if KD is the right man for the job. He's made mistakes this year but if he sells Downing he shows that he can admit & correct them & move on. I personally think KD has come a long way in doing what was his mission: stabilize the club & lay the ground work for recovery. He admits himself he wasn't the long term future. But guys, look at where we were 18 months ago. I think some people are already complacent about the idea we were a couple of short steps away from not existing or at least being a Rangers! Please stop and really think about this. You could be watching a league without LFC in it. We were that Close. So: let the owners review wether they believe money well spent this year & whether they trust KD enough to give him more. If not; I yet again thank the man for his love, passion & loyalty to our club. If he's still there next year I hope I'm good enough to show the same commitment as a fan as he does as a Manager. Anyone thinking we're worse off than last year? Just watch England this summer to remind yourself what could have been. Spot on And Dave too.
The fact of the matter is, all this negativity comes from plastic internet "supporters". The real fans aren't so stupid or lacking in any football knowledge to talk such ****e. Some people will always pick fault over praise. There will always be one person in the team who doesn't deserve to be there, isn't good enough for the championship. They must just had sad pathetic lives, if they think they are supporters of this great club. I have to say, the real fans at the cup final made me so proud, with their rendition of YNWA at the death of the game. The plastics would have walked out in disgust rather than support through the hard times. If only there was something I could say to make them all **** off and go support someone else.
you don't even know what i think about our situation and what should happen, i just oppose your ridiculous stand that anyone who criticises isn't a real supporter
If only it was that simple B4F, if it was just opinion, then I would roll my eyes and ignore it. But it is opinion like this that caused Rafa to get sacked. One bad season, and all the so called fans are all on the knee-jerk train to oblivion. These people don't seem to appreciate that when the internet fills up with ****e like this, owners listen, sponsors listen, and stupid decisions get made. Would you be as arsey if it was WUMS on here spouting that Kenny needs to be sacked, and we need to sell half the team? Also is not calling for team and manager to be sacked abusing others, that can't answer back? If they think it is OK to claim that a man should not have his job any more, I fail to see why I don't have a right to call them a ****ing idiot? You can stand behind the argument that no one is right or wrong, we all just have opinions....well Hitler had an opinion, and you can't tell me, that his opinion was not wrong. Now I'm not saying anyone on here is like Hitler, but you get my argument. All the plastic are wrong. We have not been mis-managed, we have not been that bad, we have hit the woodwork 31 times. If all of those had gone in, we'd be top 4, and everyone would be happy. Yet because of bad luck, these people are right to axe half the team and lose the manager his job? How many funerals of the 96 did Kenny go to? Why am I the only one on here sickened that people who claim to support the club feel that all this man has done for this club is not work **** compared to a bad run? So yes, I have totally had my fill of these fair-weather ****wits. I am seething with anger at their superficial opinions and drastic solutions to issues they don't even comprehend. What gives them the right to abuse my sensibility and not deserve anything back? I had hoped that this was a forum of true fans and worthwhile opinions, but for the last couple of months this place has been just as bad as TalkSport and the Daily Mail put together, and they are supposed to be fans?
personally i think we should start a campaign to get houiller reinstated seeing as we should never criticise and people shouldnt lose jobs
personally i think you're the most like hitler here, there is only one correct way and opinion and anyone who differs is "scum"
