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Kennys Decisions cost us cup

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by DayDoDoeDontDayDoe, May 6, 2012.

  1. DayDoDoeDontDayDoe

    DayDoDoeDontDayDoe Well-Known Member

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    IMO Downing and Hendersons didnt deserve to start, AGAIN.

    These two have started many games this season and havnt delivered,so Kenny had evidence that starting them again was a mistake,and yet he still did it

    On form Carroll,Shelvey and Kuyt all deserved to start more.

    Kenny doesnt have any meritocracy when it comes to team selection, he doesnt pick the lads who are playing well, he picks HIS favourites.With his form in his 2 sub appearances,Sterling should have at least been on the bench

    Kenny is far , far too negative,if theres 2 decisions to make he ALWAYS make the more defensive one.Bringing Enrique on for Aurelio after 65 mins when Sterling was on the bench v Fulham, summed Kenny up to a T, this negative ness has got to stop.


    Bad buys
    Bad team selection
    No meritocracy
    Subs too late
    Bad tactics

    JW Henry has a decision to make in the next 10 days,apparrently he told a guy who was at the game yesterday that the Fulham game was the worst he had seen.

    I think he has to go, 9th, the worst League points since the 40's is not good enough, but he only has himself to blame, better players than he signed would have come to Liverpool, he could have selected players in better form yesterday
     
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  2. Noblelox

    Noblelox Well-Known Member

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    Go support Citeh, you plastic glory hunter.
     
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  3. DayDoDoeDontDayDoe

    DayDoDoeDontDayDoe Well-Known Member

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    You plastic glory hunter, ( who went to the match yesterday )because I qualified for the ballot, after going to ALL FA Cup games this season, every League home this season, THE CC Semi Final,Final, away to Bolton , the pre season home game v Valencia, this plastic glory hunter as spent well over a grand watchin Liverpool this season, and has probably been to more games this season than you have in your life

    I base my opinions on reality, League Tables,worst since the 40's, five home League wins from 18 this season, worst home goals scored since the 50's, all this after Liverpools NET RECORD highest transfer spend EVER
     
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  4. 23_Carra_Gold

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    boom <party>
     
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  5. Noblelox

    Noblelox Well-Known Member

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    I seriously doubt you have seen more games than me fella, I was a season ticket holder for many years, before you had to sit down. I live 10 minutes from Anfield, I've been to a several hundred matches, and I've seen the worst and the best this club has to offer. I was there for Shankly's Chairman Mao speech in 74, I was there for St Etienne, I was there for ELEVEN League Championships. So don't be giving me, you credentials to tear into the manager, like you know more than him.

    Do you know who trained well? Do you know who's head was in the right place? NO, like all the other EA Sports football managers, you are just going off what you see for those 90 minutes every week. What have you ever won to justify coming on here, saying Kenny got it wrong. Do you go into hospitals telling Doctors they have it wrong too, because you've see a bit of Grey's anatomy on TV?

    I have been following this club for over 40 years, and I know I KNOW NOTHING. I don't know what goes on in training, I don't know how the team get on together, I don't know who has attitude, who destabilises the team, who has had a bust up with their girlfriend, who was seen out drinking 2 nights ago. I am not there every day, neither have I played at that level to even understand the pressures these players face each week. So what do I do? I shut the **** up about it. Yes I can say they were a shower of ****e from week to week, but I never have the arrogance to think I know better, or how someone got it wrong. So why do I have the sense to know that I don't know anything, yet everyone else thinks they can do a better job?
     
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  6. nabzy2005

    nabzy2005 Active Member

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    noblelox you seem to think just because some fans criticize the team,manager etc they are not proper fans, everybody has a right to their own opinion.
    it doesnt matter how many games you have watched and been to, a fan is a fan full stop so stop telling people to go support other teams just because you cant face the reality of the truth.
     
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  7. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    I thought he got the team selection right, although after Carroll's performance he maybe should have started.

    I might be wrong but didn't Carroll, Shelvey, and Kuyt start against Fulham? That went well!
     
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  8. Poolliver LallanaDelRey

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    To be honest; I moan as much as anyone. But I didn't think we played that badly against Chelsea.

    Yes we lost! But if the referee called THAT decision (we know the one im on about); The game could of gone in to extra time. And would this thread really exist if we won the cup on penalties?

    Kenny's substitutions were very good on the day (Carroll Cough). And unfortunately football can be like this some days especially in cup finals... So those saying "Kenny got the game wrong", I disagree with you for once :D)

    One criticism I have though: We again dominated the possession and had created more chances. Please Kenny buy another striker for us next year to convert more goals!!
     
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  9. Noblelox

    Noblelox Well-Known Member

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    This I like <ok> Also can we not take comfort that at times in the second half, Chelsea parked the bus more than they did against the greatest team on the planet?
     
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    <ok>.
     
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  11. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    An alternative view would be:

    Kenny's decisions got us to the FA cup final. Just a thought.......:)
     
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  12. Sharpe*

    Sharpe* Senior Member

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    Change channel Nobolox.

    He's not a plastic.
     
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  13. Poolliver LallanaDelRey

    Poolliver LallanaDelRey Member

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    Well considering the thread is called: "Kennys Decisions cost us cup" I would have to disagree. <doh>

    ^ Nah; I'm just joking really XD. I respect where your coming from
     
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    <ok>
     
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  15. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    I wasn't there. So I could only see what the tv showed. Hence I did not see the off the ball movements and Chelsea counter-covers. Therefore my comments are not based upon all the information.

    It appeared to me that whilst Mata and Ramieres had control of midfield they failed to make the most of it. However, we were weak in this area as Spearring and Henderson were so busy covering that they could not provide any impetus to push us forward. Hence Gerrard dropped deeper and deeper. Hence our attacking moves petered out and we merely moved the ball in front of them.

    Introducing Carroll was a risk. What we saw in the Final was a very different Carroll than we had seen all season and he changed the whole dynamic of the game. So should Kenny have changed sooner? Based on what he had seen all season then I think not. He didn't really select Henderson and Spearring - he had no other options open to him!

    So overall i would say that he didn't cost us the cup.
     
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  16. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    A decision has to be made for next season.Is Kenny going to do better next season.?
     
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  17. BringBackfootie

    BringBackfootie New Member

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    I was concerned when spearing was named to play, I honestly was not happy, I wanted him off after 30 mins for Carroll. Spearing was directly responsible for both chelsea chances, the second time being made a fool by fat frank ffs<doh>
     
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  18. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    As usual we have Kenny's supporters abusing the other Liverpool fans like some mafia minders <doh>

    The argument which is deployed most by Kenny's men is "bad luck". The posts and bar were hit many times 31 times and IF they had gone in, we would have been 4th even 3rd possibly. iF IF is the word they most use. Do we ever hear the best managers moan and whinge about bad luck over the course of a season? Over one match yes, 2 possibly. But bad luck over a whole season? Surely something must be wrong? The strikers are not sharp enough may be? Lack of composure?

    We can all make our judgements on our team. And that include the manager. When one of his supporters slaughters some of our senior players, he obviously doesn't see that as disloyalty and he finds that that quite acceptable. So FFS why does he think that this IS different to criticising the manager? When Gerrard who has been our hero fr many years can get slaughtered for not doing his job,why can't the manager be criticised for not doing HIS job? Does that mean that managers should be viewed as different to players?

    We recognise Kenny's immense personal contribution during and after Hillsborough. But does that mean he should be forever "untouchable" ?

    We all have a right to our views. To compare us to Hitler shows the type of intolerance we are facing from certain quarters.

    Kenny, you have done the best you can. Thank you but it is time for you to go as you cannot take the club to the next.

    There, I have said it! Bring on the abuse!
     
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  19. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    I don't belong to any mafia and I don't need to abuse anybody for holding a contrary view. However, I am getting very tired of the bleating from the anti-Dalglish brigade.

    Nobody has even attempted to stop you from making your points. The points that you have tried to make have usually been answered with some form of logical argument. Yes, some of our defence has been voiced around IF but also about the fact that the whole club is engaged in a development process - of which only the first stages have come into play. Most of us therefore work from the basis that it would be strategically irresponsible to change now merely for the sake of change.

    One of the other factors that arouse anger is the demand to sack Kenny without the slightest attempt or rationale for finding a replacement.

    So there, I've tried to answer. If you feel abused by my comments then that's your problem!
     
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  20. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    Carl seriously dude; you're starting to talk like you belong to some minority we're attempting to ethnic cleanse!

    Dial down the melodrama.

    My criticism of you isn't what you are saying (although I don't agree with most of it) it's the fact that you say nothing else. No matter what thread, there you are popping up posting exactly the same thing. Are you telling me in an entire season you haven't had one positive moment about LFC. For example where was your post talking about how great the Suarez hatrick was & how it put a smile on your face? As I say you must be up to 300 posts by now, Few, if any have been positive contributions. It's a bad year but Christ you seem to be always one step from cutting your own wrists!

    I do agree that Kenny should not be above criticism & that you should be free from name calling (and I've defended your right to it yesterday) but before you get on your high horse (yet again) I distinctly remember you doing everything you accuse the pro Kenny people of doing: intolerant attitude, name calling.

    So my challenge to you is this: we have all read your views on KD, the team and the tea lady multiple times. WE GET IT! We have all obtained basic comprehension skills so understand your argumentsI even I even agree with a couple of minor points.

    So there is no need to keep on & on. To do so suggests the very intolerance of different opinions you complain is shown to you.

    So do us and yourself a favour: make your next post a happy one. I absolutely guarantee it will make you feel better than you do now. :)
     
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