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If they terminate Nick's Contract........

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by StrovolosTiger, May 5, 2012.

  1. StrovolosTiger

    StrovolosTiger Well-Known Member

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    ...how much will it cost them?

    How much will the compensation be?

    How much could he get if he goes for wrongful dismissal?

    Anyone with employment law experience have any idea?
     
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  2. kccircle

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    Compensation would be paid on the condition wrongful dismissal was not claimed.
     
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  3. Boothferry2Wembley

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    Is this an issue?
     
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  4. StrovolosTiger

    StrovolosTiger Well-Known Member

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    The Allams appear to be VERY careful with money.

    If the cost of replacing the manager costs them millions for nothing more than a statement to the press that ends up being exactly the same as they have since said, they might think it a rather pointless wast of money.
     
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    It would cost them millions, apparently.
     
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  6. PLT

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    Compensation would be the rest of his contract if they choose to sack him in the conventional way (i.e. for footballing reasons, but it seems a bit late for that)

    A claim for wrongful dismissal would probably be a lot more money if Barmby won his case (which would seem pretty likely if it came to it)

    Getting a new manager would be more money still (remember that Nick actually took a pay cut to become manager, so they'll have saved money by giving him the job and getting a new man would cost more, especially if it was a big name (unlikely I know)).

    Best just kiss and make up then :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  7. hullborn

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    we all seem to think that Barmby & Pearson will win their legal battle against the allams for wrongful dismissal, when we dont actually fully know what they are being dismissed for...

    EA: It has been reported in the press that Adam walked out due to concerns over Nick Barmby. That is not the case. We terminated Adam's contract on Monday with immediate effect.

    EA: We're sensible people making sensible decisions for the right reasons. We don't expect them to understand with only half a story and we sympathise on that, but we understand the concerns.

    the allams seem pretty shrewd when it comes to stuff like this, they got rid of bullard and we know what a slippery bastard he was.. i honestly think the allams will have a good enough reason for doing what they did and will come out on top of all this mess.
     
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  8. kccircle

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    Not sure Pearson has anything owed. He was a consultant and not an employee
     
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  9. StrovolosTiger

    StrovolosTiger Well-Known Member

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    It's a mistake to assume the Pearson situation is in anyway related to the Barmby situation.

    Personally I couldn't care less whether the Allams come out on top or not. I just want the best result for HCFC and that would be for the status quo to be restored to what it was a week ago.
     
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  10. PLT

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    AP has a high-profile legal team working on this according to the HDM, so presumably they think he can get something out of it.
     
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  11. John. Walkington.

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    Problem is that if compensation of millions is paid out then that will write off next season.
    Will result in bringing in a cheap manager with nil budget.
     
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  12. PLT

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    If that happens I'd be even more annoyed with them.

    Why should they make the team suffer because of a stupid, ill-considered mistake made by them?
     
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  13. Chazz Rheinhold

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    How do you know they have made a mistake? It appears to me Barmby has blown up with the sacking of Pearson. The Allams have suspended him, to cool off, they dont want to sack him but they will if they have to. By suspending him they will be covering themselves re: employment law.

    Its strange how the allams have gone from brilliant successful businessmen with their handling of Bullard and the Leicester situation to incompetent know nowts.
    I think istplt and Nick both need to learn the Golden Rule.
     
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  14. StrovolosTiger

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    I think this is behind the present apparent reconsideration.

    But if they decide to let him come back there are still other hurdles to overcome, not least what he wants to do. He could actually turn this right around. If they say they want him to carry on, he could say "fine" but I want money for new players and I want contracts improving. That discussion, should it happen, is where the really delicate conversations will take place and the problem now is that Nick has nobody to give him advice.
     
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  15. StrovolosTiger

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    How do you know that?
     
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  16. Chazz Rheinhold

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    I dont thats why i put "appears".
     
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  17. juleskaren

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    AP was sacked on Monday and that was when it was leaked that Barmby had been suspended wasn't it. Hard to think that there is no connection. I am just getting more confused as time goes on. Just want it resolved. At first it was mentioned on here that the suspension was just a stage in the sacking process, now it has turned into a cooling off period. Why have they refused to comment at all about Nick, they have never actually said he has been suspended. As they have been penny pinching of late I can't see them wanting to spend much on a new manager and then have to supply money for new players as well.
     
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  18. PLT

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    My post was based on the event that the move costs them money and harms the team, if that did happen then it most certainly will be a mistake.

    I believe it's a mistake regardless but we've discussed that enough times and each of us knows the other's stance so I won't start again. That said, I really don't think there's any chance at all that Nick was suspended for anything other than his comments in the media where he basically grassed the Allams up and admitted he'd been covering up for them since January. If anyone hasn't heard it I suggest they give it a listen. I also firmly believe what OLM has said, that they definitely intended to sack him in the first place.

    What's the golden rule? You're right I do need to learn it.

    Indeed, it could be a very sensitive situation!
     
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  19. guitartrax

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    If suppose Nick and the Allams do manage to somehow find a way to get things back to normal where they both save face (and i,m not convinced it will happen) wont Nick feel a little isolated now AP,s gone ?. Plus he now may have DR scrutinising his every move, which could be irritating.
     
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  20. Proud Fox

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    If you go after a manager in a job thats even more compensation you need to pay out
     
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