1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Football Manager 2012

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by JWP is the goal king, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. HOADIE_BOI

    HOADIE_BOI Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,647
    Likes Received:
    991
    Game ****ing crashed after a great 0-2 win against Sunderland, did not save it in time, ****ing hell.
     
    #2321
  2. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,397
    Likes Received:
    71
    Carlos Fierro end of season stats (2021-22):

    League - 36 apps, 46 goals
    Overall - 52 apps, 53 goals

    Lionel who?
     
    #2322
  3. HOADIE_BOI

    HOADIE_BOI Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,647
    Likes Received:
    991
    Just replayed the game which it did not save and I draw 0-0, **** sake, it is annoying and a few of my players got injured, already got a lot out, this is getting annoying.
     
    #2323
  4. SFCJordi

    SFCJordi Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    2,139
    Likes Received:
    10
    please log in to view this image


    This just popped up on my other Saints save.
     
    #2324
  5. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,397
    Likes Received:
    71
    Tried to emulate Germany's 4-2-3-1 tactic and I'm extremely proud of what I've come up with. It's totally unlike any tactic I've used in the past but it works so well. Used it in three tough away games so far and won them all convincingly. I think it might be my best to date.
     
    #2325
  6. Dan

    Dan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    16,211
    Likes Received:
    132
    Wanna post it? Don't worry, I won't steal it, I'm just intrigued.
     
    #2326
  7. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,397
    Likes Received:
    71
    please log in to view this image


    Touchline instructions: drop deeper, stand-off opponents, play wider.

    The idea is to mix both counter-attacking football and possession football. The back line is very deep to prevent quick strikers from getting in behind them, the two CMs (BWM (defend) and DLP (defend)) win possession deep and very quickly move it up to the front four, all of whom have a ton of pace. I am able to play a very effective counter-attacking style, while keeping the control strategy and fluid philosophy. I made the AMR the playmaker to emulate Thomas Muller's role against England in the World Cup. El Shaarawy plays it very effectively. It's important that the DLP is not made the main playmaker because the focus is to move the ball to the flanks as quickly as possible. The touchline instructions combine rather nicely to invite your opponents onto you, and open up some lovely space between their back four and their goalkeeper.

    The main reason that this formation is so out of character for me is that on first glance it looks quite negative. I've never been a fan of having two defensive midfielders, and I always feel that a top team using a 4-5-1 variant should always have a short passing style. What I failed to realise until now is that committing to short passes in the way that Barcelona do often has its downsides. With the tempo of this tactic being so high, short passing would actually be detrimental. Because of that high tempo, and the fact that they're encouraged to play wide and use the AMR as a playmaker, the central players rarely take more than one touch. They receive the ball and immediately release it to the flanks. Playing short passes in the middle of the park in this situation would just allow the opposition to catch up.

    Barcelona play the way that they so simply because they play 11 of the best players in the world. Their formation is extremely simple and there is actually nothing special about it at all. Germany's, on the other hand, is tactical genius. Having said that, I do use the Barcelona tactic for most of my games, simply because my team is awesome enough to pull it off.

    Feel free to use it, I'd like to know if it works as well with other teams or if it's just that it suits my players. I also want to fiddle around with the centre-backs a bit more, as I'm not sure if I should make one stopper and one cover. It would sort of contradict the idea of standing off, so I'm not sure.

    Games I've played with it so far:

    Betis 1-4 Depor
    Napoli 0-2 Depor
    Shakhtar 1-3 Depor
    Real Madrid 1-2 Depor
     
    #2327
  8. HOADIE_BOI

    HOADIE_BOI Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,647
    Likes Received:
    991
    I just play 4-4-2 now bit basic I know, but look at me top of the league as it stands and I have problems with injuries this time out, I am proud and I won against Barca in the Champions league, I am already through to last 16 aswell with Barca, done it with 2 games to go, 1 game to go against Inter and if I win I finish top.
     
    #2328
  9. SuperSchneid

    SuperSchneid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    1,797
    Likes Received:
    30
    holy **** i won the champions leauge. my team is mid table, somehow got into most basic champions league spot and went all the way and beat real madrid in the final. Seriously dont have a clue how i won it.
     
    #2329
  10. HOADIE_BOI

    HOADIE_BOI Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,647
    Likes Received:
    991
    I feel the same with my position in the league, **** knows how I am there, I know I am doing a good job, but my team is over performing well I think so, but we did finish 2nd last season and I thought we over performed then, maybe it is that they are good, but I did lose a few good players in the summer and there are a few injured at the moment.
     
    #2330

  11. Dan

    Dan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    16,211
    Likes Received:
    132
    Looks good, makes sense as well, I'll definitely give that a go in a few cup/european games and let you know if it works with my team! I'll stick with my 4-2-2-2 for league because I know that works and league is the only thing I care about but as soon as I get around to playing again I'll give yours a spin. I'll start training my guys with it as a secondary tactic so when I stick it on they're not completely new to it, as at the moment I play quite differently. Does look very good though!
     
    #2331
  12. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,397
    Likes Received:
    71
    Yeah same here, I don't use it as my primary tactic because I've been using the same one for 5 seasons or so with a lot of success. But I now am using this new one for all my tough away games, and having played a few more today, the record remains at 100%.
     
    #2332
  13. SuperSchneid

    SuperSchneid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    1,797
    Likes Received:
    30
    did you guys take on the england job, i just rejected it and now not sure if i should have :/
     
    #2333
  14. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,397
    Likes Received:
    71
    Accepted the offer but it got annoying when matches came around as I just wanted to continue my progress with Depor, so I quit.
     
    #2334
  15. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

    RickieLambertsGoldenBoot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,391
    Likes Received:
    37
    Will be able to do print screens of my game tomorrow.

    Haven't had time this week at all!
     
    #2335
  16. Dan

    Dan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    16,211
    Likes Received:
    132
    I'm the same as Joe. Been offered several international jobs (No, Israel, I don't want to manage you) but never been interested. Adds to the schedule, cba with it.
     
    #2336
  17. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

    RickieLambertsGoldenBoot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2011
    Messages:
    6,391
    Likes Received:
    37
    Football Manager.

    Don't no how to take a screen shot so have had to picture it on my phone and upload it.

    Apologies for poor quality.
     

    Attached Files:

    #2337
  18. Joe!

    Joe! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,397
    Likes Received:
    71
    Mexico has produced some seriously insane regens on my game. They've won the World Cup. This happened to anyone else?
     
    #2338
  19. SFCJordi

    SFCJordi Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    2,139
    Likes Received:
    10
    Not that I've noticed, seems to be Argentina that produce monster regens on my save. On FM10 it was always Scotland! <laugh>
     
    #2339
  20. SFCJordi

    SFCJordi Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    2,139
    Likes Received:
    10
    please log in to view this image


    <laugh>!
     
    #2340

Share This Page