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HDM exclusive today interview with the Allams?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by GLP, May 2, 2012.

  1. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    But Nick sought those guarantees as well. The fact is when someone's your boss they can shove your guarantees where the **** they like and that's exactly what the Allams have done. There was about a month earlier in the season where Nick was still caretaker because he hadn't been guaranteed anything yet. Some of that was to do with Steve Wigley signing as he insisted on having him involved and some was down to money. That promise was broken immediately. Football managers aren't stupid and they just won't get involved with all this crap.
     
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  2. guitartrax

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    One thing is certain, the Allams interveiw has sure muddied the waters..
     
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  3. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    Agreed
     
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  4. WhittlingStick

    WhittlingStick Well-Known Member

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    i loved the bit where he said not to worry about not having Adam Pearson as no other club in the Championship has him either ...

    made me chuckle ...


    Its then possible the Barca prez' could take Messi to a quiet field and have him shot ... seeing as no other La Liga club has Messi either :/
     
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  5. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    That will never happen.
     
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  6. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    Well they are idiots then. The key to success in business is understanding.
     
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  7. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    That's what I can't understand. But that doesn't mean I'm siding with the Allams.
     
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  8. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

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    my thoughts exactly , with the exact player coming to mind to use as an example too <laugh>
     
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  9. TONY_WARNERS_FACE.

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    I think he was responding to the people saying "OMG! HOW THE HELL WILL WE BUY PLAYERS WITHOUT ADAM PEARSON?!?!?!". Other teams seem to do it fine.

    I think Assem has finally noticed that AP is useless and relies far too much on his cult of personality. Of course, I wish he realised it sooner, but I'm glad he finally has.
     
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  10. Robo

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    Wondered how long it would take you to crawl out and have a pop.
     
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  11. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    to be fair to this tony warner chappie, although i cant deny the latter day influence of Adam Pearson, a strong and experienced manager can do the same job as a Director of Football type person. When Brian Horton was here first time round, I know he was pulling Robbie's strings quite considerably. Basically the manager tells Mr Chairman what he wants and how much it will cost. Mr Chairman tell him whether the finances will stand it. A bit like generators or widgets for that matter. Blooming 'eck it is like business after all. By the way why are people so sure that the Allams know that much about generators. A lot of their wealth is based around property anyway. I think you ll find that they employ people to understand the techy bits.
     
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  12. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

    DJBlackandamberarmy(No4) Well-Known Member

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    or like cloughie, the chaiman tells him he cant have him, and then when the chairman turns up at the club the next day hes there along with his mate <laugh>
     
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  13. tigercity

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    The Allams have shown ruthlessness but also impatience, NB wanted to take time & nurture a team worthy of PL status in his own way.. whilst the Allams wanted a star striker to push us over the line ASAP. Why? because they own the club & it's their investment.. they don't want to wait around for NB's 10-year plan..

    I can see both sides of the argument.

    What riles me though is that once you've made your "caretaker" manager into a full-time one, you've got to back him. They've waited end of season and NB has had to die on his sword. The Allams said he dug his own grave. Nick remains silent.
     
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  14. PLT

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    I still really, really, really doubt that. What they wanted was to make it look they were interested in signing players but not to have to actually sign anyone, and they've managed to do exactly that,
     
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    A cynic might claim that was precisely what was intended.
     
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    If Barmby took that gamble as you suggest, and then as the season came to an end without a top six finish he effectively uses media to shift any blame to the Allams, publicly stating they must back up their promises of funds / ambition to take the club forward (rather than waiting for the the arranged meeting to discuss finances) when funds were *apparently* offered to him in January. This would almost certainly result in disciplinary action wouldn't it? If that's the case (?) maybe Barmby was given the ultimatum in January: Funds are available on condition the wage bill is reduced. Certain players will have to go. Barmby refuses as he was promised this would not happen when he took the job. If the Allams claims are true, why else would Barmby not bring in a striker when it was glaringly obvious we needed one? It's a theory.
     
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  17. Erik

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    Where the Allams really ever going to say anything else? As another poster said, any questioning along the lines of "was Nick told he couldn't sign Player X?" and the interview would have been swiftly stopped. I doubt the interviewer wouldn't have wanted to ask this question, but it would certainly have caused a lot of problems for the Fail if they had done so.

    I may not be the wizened old man that some of you are, but even I've heard about the Allams' business dealings and the way they conduct themselves when it comes to finances. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if everything they said in that interview was untrue.
     
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  18. juleskaren

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    Yes I am amazed by how many people believe every word of what they said. So annoying for Nick that they have stitched him up without him being able to say anything. I have spoken to a lot of people, some not even City supporters who have said things about how the Allams conduct themselves and I know people they owe money to and have had bad dealings with them. For heavens sake I read the article and just want to laugh, its so comical. Know I am going to be shot down in flames for that but never mind thats just my opinion. I will say though that they do seem to want the club to do well but are going about it the wrong way.
     
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  19. The Omega Man

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    I sometimes read the posts on here and wonder just what goes on in peoples minds!!!

    According to some posters, the Allams are not telling the truth at all in their interview. So there was never a suggestion that we should get a striker in. Odd that even Nick Barmy mentions Billy Sharp. The Allams publically stated that there would be money available last December, Nick Barmy said we dont need a striker, how many posted on here saying that we did. Did we sell Cameron Stewart? No.
    Not for the first time posters allude to the business practices of the Allams. Well if they are so bad, how come they make so much profit? Allam Marine produces a totally British made product, employing local workers. It is a huge success. But it was built up on the foundations of a failing company, that means that at some point workers and suppliers to the old business may have been let down. But that happens everyday, its part of the world that we live in.
    All of this sniping at the owners is really pathetic. Without them there would not be a club to support. They may not be everyones cup of tea, but would you really want to be owned by the likes of Gold and Bates or even worse the former owner Bartlett? Wake up and see the wood for the trees.
    And before anyone thinks that I view the Allams through rose tinted glasses, I don't. I want to see balanced views not some of the utter rubbish that is posted. Nick Barmby is no saint according to my mate whos cousin works in the shop where his uncles next door neighbour buys his paper!!!!! If you see what I mean!
     
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  20. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    (#1) Ideally, make transfer funds available

    (#2) If (#1) isn't feasible, don't lie about it

    (#3) Don't force managers to make themselves look stupid and take all the flack because of your lies

    (#4) Don't kick people out of the club who are vital to running the football side of things just because you feel you can do it better yourself despite having confessed to knowing nothing about football

    (#5) Don't sack managers who fail to go along with your crap (See (#3))

    (#6) Don't scatter redundancy notices about the place

    (#7) Don't be a total **** when it comes to dealing with the OSC and anyone else who wants to do their small bit to help the club

    (#8) Don't make us a common enemy for other clubs by being really awkward when dealing with other clubs' scouts etc. resulting in them treating us the same way when we go to their place

    (#9) Don't release a statement offering more lies about(#1-#6)

    So basically the complete opposite of what they have done since January.

    And Mel U - you know as well as the rest of us do that there is inside info on this board that is spot on. It isn't a friend of a friend thing at all. If you don't want to believe it then fine but there's a good reason you're in the minority in siding with the owners, and when it comes out you're probably going to look quite silly.
     
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