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Roy Hodgson for England...

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Gooner91, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. Sir_Red

    Sir_Red Well-Known Member

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    Constructive. Even though Kenny had us playing pass and move before he spend anything over the summer...
     
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    It looks like he has the respect of players which Roy never had... but the end result isn't much different.


    It looks to me that Roy was a bit 'soft' to handle with your players, while Dalglish is just delusional. The former at least acknowledges there is something wrong with the players performances but is too soft to do anything about it, while the latter just blames everything on bad luck. <laugh>
     
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  3. Sir_Red

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    Well TBH I would call hitting the woodwork 31 times unlucky. But your dig at Dalglish has nothing to do with my point, how is Roy's negative style of play affected by Dalglish/our current situation, you wum?
     
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    Just pointing that liverpool fans hugely overrate one, while underrate the other while he reached similar results with less investment.
     
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  5. Sir_Red

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    No not at all, Kenny is getting by at the moment on his past accomplishments, we're under no illusions at that. The reason he gets more time than Roy is that his style of play is very good to watch, even if we are ****e in the league - at least I can bear to watch my team play for once! Hodgson is negative through and through, hailing a 2-1 win against Bolton last year as incredible and game of the season ffs, and his awful interviews where he would constantly land the players in it. His job is to protect the players, not himself, ffs. Kenny is a proper boot-room manager, whereas Roy is a yes man in a suit with a huge ego and overrated CV.
     
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  6. TenG

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    LFC have the man the fans wanted, and they will give him the chance that jobs needs. Roy wasn't the fans choice, and hen things started to go wrong, they wanted him out. Of the two, given their track records, Dalglish is teh better bet. The key with LFC is any manager will need time, and Kenny is about the only person who will get the time needed to turn it around. I's just the way it is.

    Roy for England - I just don't see him getting buy-in from the players. The big players from Man Utd, Chelsea have strong managers and strong characters in the squads. I just don't see how Roy can harness that into a collective positive energy.
     
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  7. Drudeboy

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    i hardly enjoy watching liverpool's style of play. against norwich you were okay, but i couldn't help notice that all of your goals were due to defensive mistakes rather than good "pass and move". kenny tries to play attacking, but doesn't get the players to move around enough, and you end up humping it long to carrol, longer for suarez or bellamy to run onto or give it to a winger to try and dribble everyone. hogdson on the other hand knows his tactics. he realises west brom can't play like that, so he sets them up to play to their strengths. the liverpool players were just too lazy to implement that
     
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  8. Sir_Red

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    Too lazy to sit back and not do any running forward?
     
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  9. Arsegun

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    Looks like The Sun are already ridiculing Hodgson. Trust the Murdoch owned, toilet paper substitute to try and bring down the England manager on his first day. People should have a long hard think about whether or not they buy that rag since it's no different from the NOTW.
     
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  10. theHotHead

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    What bollox are you talking here ? How is his CV overrated ? He is tactically very good and this is proven - at ALL levels of football - which is important. Redknapp is just gung ho and knows little about tactics - much like Kevin Keegan - this is proven by Spurs collapse when he changed a winning formula for no apparent reason.

    He got teams to finals at the highest level and took his Swiss side to various competitions where they did not embarrass themselves. He has managed abroad and at home, he knows football better than most, Dalglish doesn't have the managerial experience of Roy Hodgson.

    I think it is a very good decision to give Hodgson the job, not some 1 trick pony like Redknapp.
     
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    If the England players can come across with half as much dignity as Woy then I'll have far more time for them. As it stands I'm physically repelled by a good half of the England line up and find it difficult to support them.

    Cole, Ferdinand, Terry, Johnson (Glen), Gerrard, Young, Rooney are, imho, knobheads of the highest order.

    I think Hodgson will do a good job for England. We're not the world class force the media try and convince us we are and he's proven his mettle at almost every club he's been at bar Liverpool where I don't think he had a fair chance. If you can take Fulham to the Europa cup final then you don't become a bad manager overnight.
     
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  12. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    JJ - I'm so glad to see you come out and admit what a shambles a number of our 'auto-pick' players are.
    Strongly agree.
    I'd probably keep Cashley & Gerrard for now - and add in Lampard for the chop.

    Time we had a proper clearout of the old guard. Sadly the ****e media will all gang up on Roy for cheap (and nasty) headlines.
     
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  13. PeterRICK

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    Indeed sir, look at the difference in the German squad when they invested in youth. Nobody expected anything from them at the WC and they were brilliant in both style and how far they got.
     
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  14. Arsegun

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    Lampard's form has been exceptional lately. Gerrard has been plagued with injuries. For the first time in a number of years I would be tempted to pick Lampard over Gerrard, so I wouldn't blame Hodgson if he does the same.

    I would be less forgiving if he picks Heskey, Glen Johnson, Aaron Lennon or Gareth Barry. When Capello played Heskey in the WC I lost all hope, and rightly so. Sometimes managers can be so stupid. There are at least two better English right backs than Johnson, so that would be a big decider for me.
     
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