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Roy Hodgson for England??

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Cisse and Assist, Apr 29, 2012.

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  1. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Not really, he got to the Euro 2008 final in his first tournament in charge. He also was unbeaten in his first 9 games as manager of Germany in the qualifiers and qualified automatically for the Euros with a 10 point gap over 3rd placed Ireland.

    Hodgson is a joke, and you'll soon see why Liverpool fans said he was **** and a massive prick.
     
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  2. Ben Arfas Revenge

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    ....Liverpool expected miracles with average players, I think its unfair to blame Hodgson for that. More evidence if it were needed that Liverpool fans live in a dream world.
     
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  3. Agent Bruce

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    I think most fans live in a world of hope, dreams, wishes and expectations. It's what keeps a lot of fans going to the games even when their team isn't doing so well.
     
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  4. Lucaaas

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    Exactly what was said about Sam Allardyce and Newcastle fans.

    A manager has to do more than get results at clubs like Newcastle or Liverpool, he has to understand the philosophy and mentality of the fans and integrate himself with the culture and history of the club. Like Allardyce at Newcastle, Hodgson failed to do that so Liverpool fans disliked him. He even failed to get decent results, knocked out by Northampton in the Carling cup, 12th position in the league and boring defensive performances in the Europa league.

    On top of that he sucked up to Ferguson at every opportunity and brought a load of dross to our club who had no respect for the club or fans.
     
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  5. Ben Arfas Revenge

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    This is a manager with a wealth of experience behind him though. Hodgson is 10x more qualified for the managers job at Anfield than you clown you currently have in charge.

    Fair play to the FA for giving him a shot at it but as I said in a previous post, we simply dont have the players to compete anymore as this generation of english players are a joke. The fault of which lies squarely at doors of the greedy clubs who want to buy success instead of nurture it.
     
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  6. Lucaaas

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    "Hodgson is 10x more qualified for the managers job at Anfield than you clown you currently have in charge."

    Whats he won in 37 years of management to make him qualified ?
     
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  7. Spiderman-Mask

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    Hodgson is the best English candidate. In terms of Premier League managers, Pardew and Redknapp are both club managers and would struggle internationally, and Rodgers is inexperienced and has had only one season as a Premier League manager

    On a side note, I think a certain Mr Hughton would be suited to international football sometime in future. Not England mind, wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, but a country where the media glare isn't as bad. Maybe taking over from Trappatoni as Ireland manager
     
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  8. Ben Arfas Revenge

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    You dont know your football do you?? lol

    Grabbed this little tit-bit from his wiki page.....

    1976–1980 Halmstad
    1982 Bristol City
    1982 Oddevold
    1983–1984 Örebro
    1985–1989 Malmö FF
    1990–1992 Neuchâtel Xamax
    1992–1995 Switzerland
    1995–1997 Internazionale
    1997–1998 Blackburn Rovers
    1999 Internazionale
    1999–2000 Grasshopper
    2000–2001 FC Copenhagen
    2001 Udinese
    2002–2004 United Arab Emirates
    2004–2005 Viking
    2006–2007 Finland
    2007–2010 Fulham
    2010–2011 Liverpool
    2011– West Bromwich Albion

    You are suffering from Liverpool-syndrome lol! You are placing too much emphasis on cups and titles and none on experience or actual ability.
     
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  9. Ben Arfas Revenge

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    Bazray in 'a whole load of nothing' post shocker! lol

    <doh>
     
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  10. lady-eleanor

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    I like Hodgson but I would have liked to have seen Harry get the job, Brian Clough syndrome all over again.
     
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  11. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Multitude of reasons not to go with Harry.

    1. Chequebook manager - good motivator but you need a bit more at the top as KK found.
    2. Dodgy history. He was cleared recently of some misdemeanours but if you were on the FA you'd be fearful of what skeletons are in the closet. The press might love him now but the tide will turn quickly if we don't win.
    3. Compo!
    4. Risk of the old guard being brought back into the fold instead of building for the future. (Ferdinand, Lampard, Terry, Carrick and so on) Highly unlikely we can win this tournament. People don't want to hear that or admit it, but it is reality. That is why Capello, who should still be in charge for me, began blooding the youngsters. The FA will want to stick to the plan as close as possible. Makes you wonder why they made his position untenable?!

    In an ideal world Capello would still have been in charge. I'd prefer Hoddle to Hodgson but I think they'd find it tough to go back to him cap in hand. Thing is I don't even think they'd have to apologise to him for their shocking treatment of him previously, he is so passionate about England I think he'd love it and just get on with it. We were heading the right way under him.

    Hodgson may have struggled with Liverpool which saw his stock fall but that was a tough ask due to squad changeover etc. He has done well virtually everywhere else and has a wealth of experience including international football.
     
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    Hodgson was never going to win at Liverpool with Daglish always in the shadow's.
    Harry was the media favourite saying we needed an English manager.
    Hodgson is English but I hope he doesnt stick with the old guard, there are some up and coming better young players who could shine in the summer.
     
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  13. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I think whoever it is will have to sign up to the FA's way of doing things if they have any sense. The manager needs to be guided how we want the squad picked. I'd see it differently if I thought we could win.
     
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  14. barnaby

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    Media calling Hodgson a yes man.
    I'm hoping he changes things and as Ive said doesnt stick with the old guard. Ok Terry, Lampard are turning it on at Chelsea but for England it's time to move on, but then again how many times have we said this.
     
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  15. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    The press will try to stop this. They won't want to lose happy Harry who'll give them more access and plenty of soundbytes/quotes. They want someone who screams British bulldog and will utilise our supposed true leaders like Lampard and Terry.
     
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  16. boxheed

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    my wish list for england manager:

    plays form players in correct positions
    doesn't care if they "big personalities" , your playing well your in, if your not your out
    has a plan B or even C

    I hope hodgson does this, i couldnt say the same about saggy chops
     
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  17. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    That would mean the likes of Terry and Lampard though. They are the form players in the country.

    What is the point? We know these guys are not good enough to win so are you not better blooding youngsters and building for future tournaments. Spain, Holland and Germany etc have shown us the way but we're too stubborn to accept the situation. We could win it because we're in it. But realistically we're nowhere near good enough and would need a back to the walls showing of Greek proportions and more.
     
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  18. It's_all_Greek_to_me

    It's_all_Greek_to_me Well-Known Member

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    Hodgson might never have won the Champions League or Premier League but his experience of International and European football is second to none. Just because he isn't a 'big' name doesn't mean he won't do well with what he has. That's why he's respected. He can perform minor miracles with what he inherits...given the CHANCE. Capello was as big as they come and he failed miserably. Hodgson is the best English candidate and was hounded out of Liverpool because Liverpool fans simply didn't want him from the start. Redknapp? Needs money to succeed and is just another cog in the wheel with an over-inflated ego.

    Fact - The England football team collectively are average at best. The players aren't anything special. If anyone can turn a bunch of average prima donnas into Euro beaters..it's Hodgson.
     
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  19. Consett Mag

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    Hodgson is man of honour. And he'll put the team first - not individuals.

    For once, I think the FA have got it right.

    Let's hope the rags give him half a chance before getting the turnip head headlines out ...
     
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  20. Freddd

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    I think England should always be managed by an Englishman, the same way that the England keeper should always be an Englishman. It's a national team. Every team country should have to make do with the best that their country can produce.#

    Sometimes England have no decent keeper, other times no left winger - - we still have to do the best we can with the nationals available.

    If it were up to me, I would introduce a rule that any country in the top, say, 50, must be managed by a national Allow the true minnows with no footballing tradition to bring in a foreign manager but not establish footballing nations
     
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