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  1. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    Khalil Dale, British Aid Worker, Killed After Kidnapping In Pakistan

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    British charity worker Khalil Dale has been killed in Pakistan after being kidnapped in January, Foreign Secretary William Hague said on Sunday.

    Dale was managing an International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) health programme in the city of Quetta when he was kidnapped in January.

    His body was found beheaded on the outskirts of the city. Local police said that Mr Dale's body was found in an orchard, with a note attached saying that he was killed because no ransom was paid to his captors.

    Safdar Hussain, a doctor who examined the aid worker's body, said that his throat had been slit.

    "A sharp knife was used to sever his head from the body," Hussain told the Reuters news agency. "He was killed about 12 hours ago."

    Quetta police chief Ahsan Mahboob said the note read: "This is the body of Khalil who we have slaughtered for not paying a ransom amount."

    The ICRC said the 60-year-old health-programme manager was murdered four months after he was kidnapped.

    "The ICRC condemns in the strongest possible terms this barbaric act," said Director-General Yves Daccord in a statmenet. “All of us at the ICRC and at the British Red Cross share the grief and outrage of Khalil’s family and friends."

    "We are devastated," said Yves Daccord. ‘’Khalil was a trusted and very experienced Red Cross staff member who significantly contributed to the humanitarian cause."

    Khalil had previously worked in Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq. He was formerly known as Ken Dale, before he converted to Islam.

    The ICRC said:

    He had been working as a health-programme manager in Quetta/Balochistan for almost a year. At about 1 p.m. on 5 January 2012, he was abducted by unidentified armed men while returning home from work.
    The ICRC has been active in Pakistan since 1947, providing humanitarian services in the fields of health-care, in particular physical rehabilitation, including in Balochistan.

    Dale been abducted by gunmen in Quetta as he made his way home in a clearly-marked ICRC vehicle on 5 January. His assailants are said to have bundled him into a car some 200 meters from an ICRC residence, in an upscale housing complex.

    At the time, police in Quetta said Mr Dale was abducted by unknown assailants riding a Landcruiser, following a visit to a local school. He had been travelling with a Pakistani doctor and a driver, who were not seized.

    Speaking in January, the ICRC called for Mr Dale's "rapid and unconditional release" and said that his family had been informed immediately.

    Quetta is the main town of the insurgency-hit Baluchistan province, which borders both Iran and Afghanistan.

    Situated close to Pakistan's border with southern Afghanistan, it is home to the Quetta Shura - the Taliban's leadership council - and is believed to direct a considerable portion of Taliban activity.

    It was not the first time a foreigner had been kidnapped from the region. In 2009, an American working for the United Nations refugee agency in the city was abducted and held for two months.

    The Foreign Office advises against "all but essential travel to Quetta" and other parts of Baluchistan, warning on its website that "there is a heightened risk from kidnapping and militant activity" in the area.

    Foreign Secretary Hague said he utterly condemned the killing and sent his deepest condolences to Mr Dale’s family.

    "I learned with great sadness earlier today of the killing of Khalil Dale by his kidnappers in Baluchistan province, Pakistan.

    "Mr Dale, a British humanitarian worker, was kidnapped in January this year. Since then tireless efforts have been under way to secure his release, and the British Government has worked closely with the Red Cross throughout.

    "I utterly condemn the kidnapping and killing of Mr Dale, and send my deepest condolences to his family and loved ones as they come to terms with their tragic and distressing loss."

    "This was a senseless and cruel act, targeting someone whose role was to help the people of Pakistan, and causing immeasurable pain to those who knew Mr Dale.

    "My thoughts are with them, and with all those who have dedicated their lives to assisting the world's most vulnerable people through the Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement."
     
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  2. Commachio

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    Not the brightest of doctors then...............

    This kind of thing opens up a whole can of worms in questions, one which i doubt many of us have many answers to...
     
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  3. Cheik the room

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    Awful way to die, slow and painful, totally unnecessary.
     
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  4. Not_cricket

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    note where it happened and then if you want to still believe Pakistan is on our side so be it. It is always the way of cowards to kill unarmed people be it that way or with a gun or a bomb
     
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  5. Commachio

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    Well Syd, i must say i'm dissapointed in the response..

    I know it's a touchy subject, and nowt to do with footy, but we have some good debates, and this is one i was hoping would spark a reaction.
     
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  6. silksworthexile

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    I can think of plenty of things to say about this but could find myself in hot water for saying them. Suffice to say I'm not in the least surprised by the barbaric behaviour of people in that region !
     
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  7. Steven Royston O'Neill

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    TBH I'm not, I did not read all the article just find it so sad that a man trying to do good died in this way.
     
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  8. Commachio

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    Whu mate?

    Let's have it, (mods will delete anyrhing wrong)..

    You mention region, which region?

    This is the kind of thing i take an interest in..
     
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  9. silksworthexile

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    Commachio - Pakistan and the more extremist parts of the muslim world. Beheading seems to be something they enjoy ! Look at the murders in other muslim countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan, whether for political reasons or greed.

    Pakistan is no friend of the west and the sooner we realise this the better - there are elements in that country aiding and abetting the Taliban and other muslim extremists. I refuse to believe the Pakistan authorities didn't know at some level that Bin Laden was in their country right under their noses !
     
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  10. Commachio

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    I see where you are coming from Syd, but it is a sad fact that is the way it is done for them....

    It will probably be on a video somewhere, but this is one i'm not going searching for.
     
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  11. Cheik the room

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    I will put forward that I think he is probabably referring to the middle Eastern countries still feeling like they live in the middle ages, and that this kind of large scale brutality is part and parcel of life and not to be frowned upon.
     
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  12. silksworthexile

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    Cheik - you're not far wrong. Unfortunately it would be too tempting to generalise and tar all muslims and muslim countreis with the same brush. Fact is though that life appears cheap in a lot of them particularly if it's a westerner / non-muslim.
     
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  13. Steven Royston O'Neill

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    and so the question is, should we be backing them with cash or if we dont what about the innocent people who would suffer
     
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  14. Commachio

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    I'm not disputing anything mate...

    I live in a country where more were killed in 3 states than Iraq And Afghanistan combined, at one time, but media blackout didn't show the rest of the world.

    This was Muslims wanting to be free and wanting their indpendence, plus they are attached to Malaysia which is a nostlu Muslim country.....

    .......................................................

    Anyway, the execution of this man, albeit in a barbaric way, in the eyes of western cultures, just highlites how some people can't help others due to the extremists.
     
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  15. Cest Advocaat

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    Did anyone see the documentary on Thursday about the British Muslim men's plot to bring down aeroplanes over the UK? It was a shock to see how radicalised these people have become, not in Afghanistan or Iraq but here in Leeds, Bradford and London.

    This threat is right on our doorsteps and its only a matter of time IMO, until this very thing starts to occur in the UK. It's high time people woke up and realised the threat that exists and also its time the Muslim community woke up and made their choices.

    I genuinely fear a backlash in this country on the scale that Enoch Powell described some 50 years ago.

    As the father of a young child, that will reach adulthood in those circumstances, that prospect is a very scary one let me tell you. I fear the rise of the radical right wing in this country, and across Europe (just look at Norway's recent tragedy with Anders Brevik ) as this will only breed more hatred and more violence.

    That's something none of us can ignore.
     
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  16. silksworthexile

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    Didn't think you were disputing anything mate - you were just asking a valid question. You have more experience of living in the muslim world than I do, but I find it difficult to express my distate for the way some interpret Islam without sounding like a racist !
     
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  17. Makemstine Roger

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    was going to comment but this has made me so angry i would probably say something I WILL regret
     
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  18. Commachio

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    At last, someone mentions the Powell speech other than me......we can't condem all Muslims, as most are peace loving people, but they have the extremists of extreme (if that makes any sense), and are converting ordinary people (white, English, American etc) to their beliefs.

    Maybe if the mods allow it,,(i know they are interested, as long as we don't push the boundaries to far) all can have their say on this.

    Personally, i have little time for them, if they keep themselves to themselves, and abide by THE LAWS,
     
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  19. Hereward of Bourne

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    Invade Pakistan, control it... find the extremists and have them shot. Simples.
     
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  20. Commachio

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    Haha, he of little concept of military powers..

    Invade them with what?

    Do you have any concept of how large these countries are, or what their terrain and the local population beliefs are?

    Added to that the fact that Pakistan is armed with nuckear bombs.........
     
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