with my experience of London the police wouldnt be able to smell anything other than SHIIIIITE!!!. I would just put a massive fence around London and throw rice over every now and then to keep you ticking over
So what have we learned: Stoke play rugby, or maybe Aussie Rules Stoke people agree they are Neanderthals who live in caves - although i think they were talking up their houses to be honest, they are not as nice as caves. Stoke people are stupid Shawcross is a thug Stoke fans have embarrassed themselves worldwide They dont actually care because they like being seen as the toilet of the world It would be best to quarantine the whole area, relocate the population to Mars, raise the town to the ground, fumigate the area to get rid of the smell, then rebuild as if Stoke had never happened.
Well you see if you were anywhere near them, they WERE smelling ****e. As soon as you left, everything returned to normal, but you would not have experienced it.
No, actually you won a point for yourselves. In terms of taking points off us, it was actually 2, if you were talking about the potential points we could have had. I assume you were, beacuse there is no possible scenario where you 'took a point off' Arsenal. Hate to break it to you but 3, minus 1, equals 2. You will have never been in eductaion long enough to have learned that, so I understand.
I don't really understand why they booed. One of their players broke his leg. Why was a boo needed? Clearly is bad blood between the clubs and even expressed by Wenger which doesn't help.
I think maybe it's time to draw a line under the whole deal. Ever since Stoke City have been promoted to the Premier League, top division fans have been burdened with having to watch this team play twice a year. They, along with Hull and Birmingham gave me the impression that the Championship was all kicking lumps out of one another. Fortunately, since then, we have seen teams like Norwich, Swansea, Blackpool and so forth playing football straight out of the Championship. They have a stupid manager with a stupid hat. They have stupid players who are told to go kick people wherever possible. There was another assault on Ramsey at the start of the game where a Stoke player purposefully elbowed him in the neck quite sharply. I'm surprised nobody else has picked that up. Their fans resemble gibbons. They honestly looked like they were about to fling faeces at the pitch at several points yesterday. Stoke has no redeeming features. At all. /thread
Stoke fans have to take responsibility but I also blame Wenger, had he handled the situation differently there wouldn't be as much bad feeling. Unlike Taylor on Eduardo, Shawcross' tackle wasn't actually that bad, unfortunately Ramsey's foot was locked so as the impact was made instead of just going over and being able to evade the challenge, his leg was caught in the follow through hence why it broke. Nobody will convince me Shawcross meant to break his leg, there is a case for Martin Taylor on Eduardo who had no remorse and clearly went to injure the player, he should have been banned for life IMO for the intent alone. There is a saying. "Don't kick a dog when it's down" and Wenger allowed his emotions to override him and his dig at Shawcross was out of line. Managers are to blame, it's the same reason us and Liverpool hate each other and the same reason why Stoke and City hate each other despite no geographical or historical links
There's more to it than that. Watching Stoke play Arsenal is depressing, even when we win. It's not the fact that they do well against us, I didn't begrudge Swansea their win, but more that they should be sued for false advertisement. "Football" club indeed.
Just can't agree with you here DL (though you speak a lot of sense). Here's some non UK media (unbiased) coverage. [video=youtube;o67ftN-B6r8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67ftN-B6r8[/video] Shawcross took a full blooded swing, not at the ball. Even at amatuer level no player looking at the ball can completely miss it over the top of the ball. Think about that. If he went to kick the ball, how was his foot 6 inches over the top of it? Look at the freeze frame. Go out and kick 1000 footballs at full pelt and let me know how many airshots you have. that you miss over the top of the ball. He intended to foul and hurt - I am sure not to break Ramsey's leg. But the extent of the injury is irrelevant to his intent.
Indeed they do, and Wenger was spot on with his reaction. After Shawcross' assault he got a 3 game ban, when in reality he should have gone to jail, or at the very least been banned from a football pitch for life. It was assault and GBH. The more managers like Wenger that call for serious action against players like Shawcross the sooner we can clean up football. Leadership is not pretending something didnt happen. Pretending it wasnt bad, and spouting bull**** about 'he's not that type of player' is the problem. lets not forget this was not the first time for Shawcross. Cloggers who ruin careers of footballers should be removed from the game.
I think remaining professional, not for once claiming Kenny has this season, is better than letting your emotions out in front of the camara. Speaking to the likes of the governing bodies is the correct route. Was the tackle really that bad? You got a video?
Video above - watch it. It was assault. I agree that Wenger should have spoken to the authorities - and I mean the police. Shawcross is lucky no charges were pressed. In that context Wenger and Ramsey did show constraint.
Totally agree and this is why I am against managers being interviewed immediately after incidents like this. If it was an ex-Arsenal player that had made that tackle or somebody Wenger knew his perspective would be different but he looks at Shawcross as a rough, dogged English defender from grotty northern parts hence why his reaction was extreme.
