Neil warnock on his qpr season, axing & what could have been different

At the beginning of the season of course I would have taken SWP over Mackie. I seem to remember this board giddy with excitement at that signing as with all the others.
Also it wasnt Barton over Faurlin it was Barton over Derry and after the first few matches I remember Derry being slated and how we could have no more sentimment. Both him and Hill were over the hill and crocked according to the sceptics.

It was also Warnock who brought them all back into the side. He's worked with Derry and Hill for years and showed the faith in Mackie to put him in the 25 in the first place and got them all back to their best so your argument that he destroyed them is completely unfounded.


The reason he bought average players such as Bothroyd, Dyer etc is because he had a budget of £1.25m to keep us in the Prem. Considering he got in a striker who had 13 prem goals the previous season, spent **** all on Dyer and got in Bothroyd who we all rated very highly I think he did a good, actually, a great job with what he had. Dont forget Gabbidon who has been solid but now replaced with better players after actual money came in.


He had zero money in the first place and had to sign anyone he could. As the article said we had Graham, Routledge and Naughton lined up but new owners didnt come in so he had to sign pretty much anyone he could. No proven players would join a side in such a dire state so he had to take risks.

Then when the money came in he signed Barton, Young, SWP, Traore and Ferdinand. 3 England internationals, a Senegalese international and our most consistent performer of the season. I guess you would've turned your nose at them at kept the team assembled on less than £1m.

 

It's interesting, of course, but now part of ancient history. We all have opinions, but at the end of the day, we'll never know the truth of any other outcome.

 

Your correct Uber people always want to point the finger if/when it goes wrong, by the way IF we stay up are the Warnock bashers going to give him credit for he's part in keeping us up or is it one way traffic and too much to ask?

 

And the answer to my question? Some of us are dying to know.

 

I don't quite remember it the way you do. Faulrin and Mackie were integral parts of Warnock's team until the former had his season-ending injury and the latter I seem to recall came back from a career threatening injury. Macvkie was not dropped. He had to build up his match fitness and fitness before he could be brought back. Derry was always either in the team or on the subs bench but as I recall he dropped to the bench because he went through a period of poor performances. I think to the last man we called for that to happen. Derry rolled up his sleeves and won his place back. Flyer are you honestly telling me that you thought Clint Hill, that free transfer that Warnock brought in, was ever going to be up the standard and pace of the Prem? If not, then I would say you too should have been fired as an armchair manager if that is the best you can throw in Warnock's direction. Take the criticism and punishment yourself for making such a mistake. Just in case you think I am being unfair, I'm not. We all thought it at the time. However Neil Warnock recognised that he had more of the qualities we so needed (and applaud right now) that he brought him back and has been a more or less constant part of our defence ever since.

Mackie is another player that many of you are guilty of thinking to be not good enough for this league. Warnock clearly knew better.

Let's not try to rewrite history in order to paint a false picture that suits the position you have now adopted. Warnock was not perfect but he was a damn sight better than his critics give him credit for. He took us up under circumstances in which I believe no other manager would have been able to. He made some bad mistakes but had achieved the minimum target set for him. On that basis alone he did not deserve to be sacked. I do not beleive that we would be in any worse position than we are now. Granted we might not have won some of the games we have. But equally I think we might well have won some of the easier games before the final run in which were thrown away through a lack of adventure going forward. Swings and roundabouts.

Not to mention the sheer stupidity of replacing a manager with one who may well be better but who is a notoriously slow starter especially as the sole purpose in doing so (according to the reasons which were tweeted at the time) was to keep us up.

Hughes has made some mistakes for which he has been criticised. He will make more. But I for one do not believe that you should always sack a manager on the basis of a few mistakes or poor results. Judge him at the end of the season.

 

Yorkshire! Have some rep. I couldnt agree more. People are making excuse after excuse blaming Warnock for anything they can.

I think Warnock said it best when he got sacked

"I take full responsibility for where QPR are now. In the Premiership."

 

There is something seriously amiss with you Flyer. I'm still working on what it is but having successfully (IMO) diagnosed Taarabt's mental disability, I'm certain I'll figure your problem out in time also.

Just for the record: Hughes took over with the team just above the relegation zone, spent an obscene amount of January cash, more than any other Club in the Country, and as a result has us above the drop zone on goal difference with Chelsea and City away to play.

Hes been a disaster so far in my estimation. At least Terry Connor can point to the fact that he inherited someone else's team.

 

Well said.

 

Have been saying the same thing, I think he should have gone after the scum game, against 9 men playing with one up front, I felt so deflated after that game. I think that game did more damage to moral that some defeats, we nearly drew/lost that game.

 

Back again?

 

Flyer, or California or any of the others who have the benefit of miraculous hindsight, I repeat my question. Who would you have replaced Warnock with as you were all so convinced that he would be found out. We are all still waiting for the answer and the tension is killing us. Surely you have been blessed with enough hindsight to have called that one as well. Remember the ground rules. Flavio and Bernie saying "No thank you" all the time and therefore the most you can spend or offer is 0.

Surely it's not that difficult.

 

Not shameful IMO he did fantastic for us in the championship but it was clear very early on that he was clueless in the Premiership. He was given a great chance he deserved but he blew it but killing the very team spirit he generated ... I have said in the past that takes forever to build regardless of the players you have ... My arguement I took to the old swords about players
NW tried to tinker and came up very short

 

who are you again ?!!

 

Ive already said TF should have looked around before the takeover was complete and bought a new man in with money to spend.

Wasnt Hughes available at that time?

 

I blame Alec Stock, never invested properly, only liked players with big arses.
Or is that just the benefit of hindsight?

 

Ask Queenslander, I wanted him gone at the time and posted as such.

It was not hindsight.

 

Hughes felt he was too big for a team like QPR in the summer. You got him in January because he realised he had to get back in the game and prove himself again.

In the summer, you may well have been stuck with someone like Curbishley.