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I am off -Guardiola told Messi and others.

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  1. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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  2. Zingy

    Zingy #ziggywould

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    I was wondering when someone was going to make a thread on this.
     
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  3. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    Can he succeed in the Premier League.... Big question.

    I'd say yes, but I can think of cons. I think park the bus teams like Stoke could hold back the style he shows with Barca comfortably enough, so he would have to adapt and maybe get a bit more physical.
     
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  4. jaffaSlot

    jaffaSlot Well-Known Member

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    Like Chelsea you mean.
     
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  5. Bozz

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    I don't think Chelsea will be right for him... I think Chelsea need to go for a manager who knows the premier league. Scolari, Grant, AVB & Ancellotti had no premier league experience and they all failed - Mourinho was an anomolie.

    I think Man Utd would be the club for him
     
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  6. pass&move

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    only managers with eyes on the hefty pay-off would go to that club.
     
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    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, Ancelloti did a pretty good job and was unlucky to lose his job.
     
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  8. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    No. He thought the Barcelona job was tough and demanding.

    He would die in the premier league, where things are actually tough and demanding unlike the last job he had, the worlds easiest job.
     
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  9. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    God no we would fall well behind.
     
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    Mancini? <laugh>

    I hear his son can do a bang up job <whistle>
     
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  11. Constcrepe

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    UIR I have no idea of why you are so against this guy. I love the way he has set up Barca to play. Great team and a great style of football. Furthermore no he will not be at United in the foreseeable future. Secondly if he did and I would not be upset, but he would need time to settle in and get United playing to his way. Finally I believe United will initially struggle regardless of who takes over considering the legacy of SAF.
     
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  12. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    Get playing his way? What way is that. Barcelonas success is 100% down to the players. Pepe came along at the right time to just sit around and watch the wins roll in. Anyone could of done it. When you have the players they had and Real Madrid are in transition aswell as the rest of spain forgetting how to kick a ball things become very very easy.

    Imagine Fergie had his attitude, we would be ****ed bigtime.

    He will fail in his next job because every job on earth is tougher that the job hes leaving. Also having him means we dont get Mourinho and Mourinho is 10 times the manager.
     
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  13. Constcrepe

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    <doh> Yes he has great players but they play in a style that he wants. “This is what the game is about,” he said. “We had a ball when we were kids and we had a good time passing it around. The ball is the start of it all. “As long as I am the manager of this club, I will focus on passing and passing because that is our essence.”

    There is no way Barca only win because of the players. Total nonsense. Yes under Rijkaard, Barca played with skill and flair and yes they too won many trophies: 2 La Liga, 2 Supercopa de España, 1 UEFA Champions League. But under Guardiola they have won even more but the team while playing a short passing game with great movement and skill, has also this amazing ability to press high up the pitch with full backs so they disrupt the midfield and defence of their opposition. It is Guardiola development of the ‘tika-taka’ style of football which to many is so successful.

    "Pep immediately transmitted an enormous amount of pride in our work, ambition and hunger. He won our confidence from the first day because we could see that things were being done correctly and then when results started to flow the confidence grew with them." - Barcelona striker Lionel Messi.

    "Barca are the best team in the world. I already knew [that] when I got there, and when I left. Guardiola is a fantastic trainer, the problems between us were different." - Former Barcelona striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

    "He has shown that a young tactician can be successful at the highest level. It's my goal to become as successful at Ajax." - Ajax manager and former Barcelona defender Frank de Boer.

    "Pep is the secret weapon of this group. Leaving aside the sheer quality of players, he is a very special talent, along with the rest of his coaching staff. Pep Guardiola is one of the best secrets and the most important member of the team." - Barcelona goalkeeper Victor Valdes.

    I am not saying that Barca only won cause of the coach. No. I am not saying Barca will struggle now that he's gone. No. There are many reasons to why they have been so so successful over the last few years. I am saying that Guardiola is one of the reasons they were so damn good, and it is foolish to write him off or criticise him.
     
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  14. Hogey89

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    Firstly it's Pep not Pepe.

    Secondly, you're completely wrong, Guardiola completely changed Barcelona when he came in he got rid of the likes of Deco and Ronaldinho, changed Messi from a winger to the central position he plays in now, Xavi and Iniesta were thought of as average players before Guardiola based his system around them. Winning 13 competions in 4 years is an amazing unprecedented record, he's won as many champions league titles as SAF has managed in 25 years. Having the best players does not guarantee success, think of the galacticos era of Real Madrid in the early 2000s where they had the likes of Figo, Zidane, Beckham, Ronaldo, Carlos, Raul, Casillas etc did they win everything? did they win as much as Barca have? No! If the other teams in spain are as bad as you say, how do you explain bilbao embarrassing your lot in the europa league earlier this year?

    If you truely don't rate Pep as a manager then I don't think you understand football
     
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  15. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Players always big up managers, especially if they are friends outside the game and I would think Pepe was a manager and friend to them.

    Personally barcelona are horrible to watch aswell. I prefer attcking direct football played at pace. Nothing beats it.
     
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  16. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    He came at the right time. When he joined spain wasnt brimming full of top class teams, barcelona were on the verge of greateness and he arrived at the perfect moment.
     
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    He didnt have the best players, he had the best team. Massive difference.
     
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  18. Constcrepe

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    Read the quotes again. Some of which are from his players and some from others including Ibrahimovic who left under a cloud and also isn't the easiest person to get along with. Also Barcelona are horrible to watch! <laugh> Do me a favour!
     
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  19. Hogey89

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    and whose job is it to turn great players into a great team?
     
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