With the season coming to a close and the players head off to the sunshine which if any at all will return not to the liberty but to another club... i have a fear that we could lose vorm as there are some big clubs being linked to him. Sir Alex is one that likes vorm, chelsea are sniffing around and spurs... another is little joe who is attracting some huge interest from the big boys. I hope we can hang on to all the big guns but i doubt we will be able to if the offer is to great...
Maybe Dyer could attract some interest. I wonder if we would consider selling anyone to raise funds to buy Siggy?
I can't see Vorm going, especially not to Man Utd who have the new wonderkid, De Gea lol. Little Joe will stay, He's Swansea through and through and he, plus the others, will know that the grass is not always greener. One good season in the PL doesn't make them a great player.
nobody at any club is loyal through and through ash. if the price and terms are right a player will go where ever.....Its their career....
While that is true Dai, I have a feeling Joe is as loyal as they come. Plus, he has Britton to advise him lol.
true but poor britton left after throwing his toys out of his pram....Joe would get bigger and better offers ..
Sorry JA but you're going to get burned thinking that players are loyal. With a few exceptions they aren't. The only ones that are truly loyal are the supporters, and about a third of them would be out the door if we were relegated.
I don't think all footballers are loyal, but there are a few. Messi to Barca, Scholes to United, Joe to us.
Barca are huge. Utd are massive. We're Swansea. Trust me - if a big club comes in for Joe he'll be off. Who wouldn't? No disrespect but you're being naive.
There's a reason that newly promoted clubs struggle in the second season .... their players struggle in the second season. Which of our players has been so amazing that they warrant taking a punt on them not being a one season wonder. Siggy has been a revelation. Vorm has been better than rock solid, but he's not going somewhere to ride the bench behind the current favorite and all the top clubs have decent keepers. As for the others, some OK, some solid, some struggling a tad to step up, but how much of this season's performance is the fruit of realizing talent versus adrenalin driven playing out of their skins. Also, if we finish 10th there are only 9 clubs better than us, so unless you're going international there aren't a lot of opportunities to improve yourself unless you're a purely mercenary MF and would go to a club finishing lower in the division just because they flashed you a check .... penny wise pound foolish I am thinking.
I don't like this "we're swansea" tag. Yes, we are Swansea and to me, were the biggest team in the world. I'm loyal to my club and there is nothing to suggest our players aren't the same. Naive, maybe, looking at the good in people, definately. P.s. summed it up nicely Yankee.
KJ ... I hear what you're saying, but we're in the Prem now too. We're one of the clubs other players aspire to play for, perhaps not for money, but because we're in the Show, have a coach who is capable of coaching total football, and a board that believes in that same philosophy and style of of play almost as much as they believe in a clean balance sheet. We've drawn our share of blood against these bigger clubs. We have a brand that's on display each week on TV around the world. Chelsea beat Barca twice in back to back games, how did we do against Chelsea. How did we do against the treasure of Man City ... pretty darn good. A player like Allen for example can play in our starting XI pretty much every week of the season, or go to a "bigger" club and scrap each week in a big squad to get on the bench. Put yourself in his shoes, what's better for your development, in which environment are you going to grow the most, realize your potential the quickest ... running drill after drill during the week and watching from the stands or the bench on Saturday, or being out there on Saturdays plying your trade against the best in the League and perfecting what you practice during the week. Ask Dorus what he would rather have been doing this season - banking money and getting splinters in his arse, or getting dirty each week stopping the best in the game. The players that think they're peaking might want to grab a better pay check for a short while and to hell with playing in matches. The players think that they have plenty yet to offer and are hungry for the best challenge are going to put money second and do a something like a cost / benefit calculation and realize that they get more benefit by playing in the first team each week and pitting themselves against the best. These are the players we want to keep, the others can go, wished well and we'll use the room and resources for somebody potentially better. For example, Vorm or Dorus? I think we know the answer to that one.
you cant assume that players wont leave to sit on the bench for a big club. thats stupid of course they will. they will be part of a squad who will be fighting with others for a first team chance. they must be good enough to be wanted by these big clubs and just the thought that they are in with a chance of playing for the man utd's of this world out weigh anything we can offer.
you've seen time and time again careers ruined by joining the big clubs when you arent ready...unless its arsenal of course....the likes of allen, taylor and caulker etc would be best served playing at least another 2 years at swansea.
Oh yes ... I remember those guys ..... The same awesome, star studded, untouchable Man Utd that could only beat us 0-1 on an offside goal while we were "still figuring out who we were going to swap jerseys with" (to quote BR). The guys we dominated possession on. The guys that really couldn't break us down despite the fact that we have the youngest team, the most inexperienced team in the league and they have a manager that is so rich in experience that he was clueless against Barca the second time around and had little more tactical awareness against us. Yep, you're right they're definitely worth jumping our ship for. They have a top scorer in the league in Berbatov that they leave rusting on the bench. They are so awesome at young player development that they have to play a 38 year old in Giggs and recall Scholes from retirement - such is their faith in their "younger" squad members and theiir ability to identify and develop their replacements over 18 ****ing years. If I was a young player hungry to develop, learn and to play every day that's exactly where I would want to go. Not! If I was at Cardiff, or another club, without a prayer of getting any higher up the league then yes, I agree with you. But we're not Cardiff or any other club. Ramsay did it, but is Ramsay any better off today than Joe.
If you want to contrast modern football thinking with the stale tactical ideas of yesterday take a look at the MOTD3 video (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17812429) and compare the Prem all-star lineups of BR with Shearer and Savage and listen to BR's comments. Just on the face of it BR is so far out in front of these guys, and others like them, it's embarrassing. Yet, this is the thinking at so many other clubs in the Prem. This is what makes us different; this is an example in just one dimension as to why a game-smart young player that wants to be on the cutting edge of the game should stay or come to us. This is why Siggy wants in!
footballers want to play at the highest level with the biggest club possible. they dont care about swansea why should they its just a job and stepping stone until something gets offered better. now are you saying that if vorm or any other player wont join the man utd's of this world where they will become millionares over night then your deluded, of course they would any small club player would even to sit on the bench waiting for their chance at a big club.
