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What is Sandy Jardine talking about?

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  1. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    "We are going to have a meeting with all the delegates from the whole of Britain, and some of them will be flying in from abroad," said Jardine.


    "Out of that, the supporters will take sanctions against clubs which we deem to have been unfair to ourselves.


    "I'm not going to go into the actual details but we will probably announce that after the meeting with the supporters clubs."


    Anyone got any idea which clubs he's on about and what these clubs are supposed to have done? (apart form being "unfair" to Rangers)
     
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    AP: Password Mong Well-Known Member

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    I demand transparency on which clubs have been deemed "unfair to Rangers".

    Who are these clubs? We deserve to know who is being unfair. I'm potentially a fan of one of these clubs and I demand to know. <grr>
     
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  3. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    They are dying Dev.

    These things are to be expected.

    Zero sense at all in his mutterings.
     
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  4. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    I don't see what "sanctions" they have left to punish the clubs who have been "Unfair".

    Have the various Rangers fans groups not already promised to boycott every away ground next season anyhoo?
     
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  5. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    how have other clubs been unfair exactly?

    rangers have been caught cheating. whats it got to do with the rest of us?
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

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    Your club Aberdeen have been awfully unfair and Sandy's going to tell on you. So there.
     
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    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    oh ok then. seems fair enough to me.
     
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  8. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    I don't really blame Gers and their many orcs.

    They are actually going to die (I know).

    They are just hitting out.

    No buyer by the end of the season (maybe before) and that's it.
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    Sandy Jardine has said that Rangers have been unfairly punished for the actions of Craig Whyte and are being &#8220;kicked&#8221; by outsiders while in a weak state.



    Jardine was speaking at an event promoting the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund and stated that employees at Rangers were being punished for Whyte&#8217;s actions though they were oblivious to them at the time.


    The club ambassador said that harsh penalties for Rangers would hurt other clubs but also said that he would be meeting with supporters associations ahead of action against clubs they felt had been unhelpful

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    &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t Rangers Football Club, it was Craig Whyte who put us in this situation,&#8221; Jardine said.


    &#8220;I&#8217;m still at the club, I worked under Craig Whyte and I have to say that nobody knew that he wasn&#8217;t paying bills. It was as big a shock to us as to everybody in Scottish football.


    &#8220;The players did nothing wrong, the management of the club did nothing wrong, the supporters did nothing wrong and the staff did nothing wrong.


    &#8220;The person that did something wrong was Craig Whyte and unfortunately he&#8217;s getting a penalty which he&#8217;s laughed off. They&#8217;ll never get the money but the people still at this club are going to have to pay a penalty because of that.


    The SFA have imposed a signing embargo on the club for bringing the game into disrepute and the SPL are to consider new rules that could effect Rangers should a &#8220;newco&#8221; plan be implemented.


    Jardine said that the club should be treated differently because of the club&#8217;s stature and said that the outcome had implications for other clubs, including direct action taken by Rangers supporters groups.


    &#8220;I know from talking to the supporters, and the feeling within the club is, that we can&#8217;t do any more than put our case forward,&#8221; he said. &#8220;If they [the SPL and SFA] are starting to ignore us and not take it into consideration then ok, we&#8217;ll go down a division.


    &#8220;Rangers are a special case mainly because of the size of the club within Scottish football and what it delivers.


    &#8220;We&#8217;ll get a bit of pain, but everybody else is going to get a bit of pain too.&#8221;


    He added that details of supporter&#8217;s sanctions against the unnamed clubs would be announced this weekend.


    He explained: &#8220;Having gone round and met a lot of the supporters and people within the club, I think people are absolutely sick and tired of everybody having a kick at us when we&#8217;re down.


    "We are going to have a meeting with all the delegates from the whole of Britain, and some of them will be flying in from abroad, on Saturday.
    &#8220;Out of that, the supporters will take sanctions against clubs which we deem have been unfair to ourselves.


    "I'm not going to go into the actual details but we will probably announce that after the meeting with the supporters clubs.&#8221;

    "Also the Fighting Fund last night sanctioned money to fund a QC to fight the case against the SFA.


    "Everybody is sick and tired of just accepting everything that everybody is throwing at us and it's about starting to fight back.


    "The size of our club and the size of our supporter base, it can be a powerful weapon."
     
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  10. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    jesus wept, it was murray that left the club crippled. are all ex gers players as thick as mince or something?
     
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  11. DevAdvocate

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    Some Gers fans actually think Murray is not as culpable as Whyte.
     
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  12. Ciaran

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    Chapper for a start.

    No wonder he got away with it.
     
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  13. DevAdvocate

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    http://www.businessballs.com/elisabeth_kubler_ross_five_stages_of_grief.htm

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    [TD="width: 175"]EKR stage[/TD]
    [TD="width: 517"]Interpretation[/TD]
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    [TD="width: 175"]1 - Denial[/TD]
    [TD="width: 517"]Denial is a conscious or unconscious refusal to accept facts, information, reality, etc., relating to the situation concerned. It's a defence mechanism and perfectly natural. Some people can become locked in this stage when dealing with a traumatic change that can be ignored. Death of course is not particularly easy to avoid or evade indefinitely.[/TD]
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    [TD="width: 175"] 2 - Anger[/TD]
    [TD="width: 517"]Anger can manifest in different ways. People dealing with emotional upset can be angry with themselves, and/or with others, especially those close to them. Knowing this helps keep detached and non-judgemental when experiencing the anger of someone who is very upset.[/TD]
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    [TD="width: 175"] 3 - Bargaining [/TD]
    [TD="width: 517"]Traditionally the bargaining stage for people facing death can involve attempting to bargain with whatever God the person believes in. People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek to negotiate a compromise. For example "Can we still be friends?.." when facing a break-up. Bargaining rarely provides a sustainable solution, especially if it's a matter of life or death.[/TD]
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    [TD="width: 175"] 4 - Depression [/TD]
    [TD="width: 517"]Also referred to as preparatory grieving. In a way it's the dress rehearsal or the practice run for the 'aftermath' although this stage means different things depending on whom it involves. It's a sort of acceptance with emotional attachment. It's natural to feel sadness and regret, fear, uncertainty, etc. It shows that the person has at least begun to accept the reality.[/TD]
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    [TD="width: 175"]5 - Acceptance [/TD]
    [TD="width: 517"]Again this stage definitely varies according to the person's situation, although broadly it is an indication that there is some emotional detachment and objectivity. People dying can enter this stage a long time before the people they leave behind, who must necessarily pass through their own individual stages of dealing with the grief.[/TD]
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  14. RAVENBLACK

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    murray is more culpable. he could not wait to flog rangers for a quid to someone who was well known as a crook.
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

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    That's what I think, and to be fair so do most Gers fans on here.
     
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  16. Ciaran

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    ****ing Chapper says he's a stand up guy <grr>
     
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  17. RAVENBLACK

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    im sure the gers fans think so.

    if it happened to the club i support i would feel the same.
     
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  18. DevAdvocate

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    Chapper simply does not like discussing Rangers with Celtic fans I believe. Maybe I would be the same if the roles were reversed but I doubt it.

    When The Kellys and Whites were in charge at Celtic I was one of the many who wanted their heads on a pikestaff. I spoke to Gers fans about them, why would'nt I?
     
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  19. Glesgabhoy67

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    It's like a dying wasp, gets uber aggressive and stings everyone around until eventually it runs out of food (money in their case) and dies.
     
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  20. Ciaran

    Ciaran Going for 55

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    Correct.

    Although I don't find watching a Wasp die funny.
     
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