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Creditors Meeting Tomorrow

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  1. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

    RickieLambertsGoldenBoot Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys, RLGB in peace, <ok>

    Trevor Birch will meet with creditors tomorrow to discuss the clubs debts, potential investments and the clubs future.

    The meeting will come the day before Trevor Birch has to go back to court (I think) to deliver his verdict on the situation and what the most appropriate course of action is.

    With four people being made redundant today and players still not having left despite being released, what are people's views on the clubs current situation?

    Obviously not good, but what are people predictions for the outcome over the next few days?

    Really feel for the fans!

    RLGB
     
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  2. 3rd eye

    3rd eye Well-Known Member

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    The players aren't released until either a) their contracts run out or b) they agree a settlement to end their contracts - Football Creditors Rule means they are paid until 31 July, even when their contract ends (unless they sign for another club before that date).

    Trevor Birch has to meet with the creditors - to explain the current situation and to start talking about a CVA to enable things to move forward.

    An awfully high percentage of the debt is owed to 3 former owners - they are the biggest reason for making the club a poor investment for anyone else.

    According to the BBC - Of Pompey's £58m debt, £38m is owed for the purchase of the club from the previous administrators. A further £10.5m investment made by former owners Vladimir Antonov's Convers Sports Initiatives (CSI) remains outstanding.

    No wonder we are in the mire - how the hell did Chanrai's £17m become £38m????????
     
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  3. olddellboy

    olddellboy Well-Known Member

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    3rdeye,

    i am not an expert in pompey's financial woes, but my understanding is that the £38M is the total owed to ALL unsecured creditors from the previous CVA, i.e. taxman, etc. Chanrai's £17M is excluded as it is secured on the land, so was not in the £38M.
     
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  4. MAJR

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    So far the information from the creditors meeting is:

    There is interest in the club but Birch is not, at the moment, convinced about any of it. Has yet to see proof of funds.

    There is a 50/50 percent chance of the club finding a buyer before next season.

    The club has enough money to make it to June with no further investment.

    Season ticket sales wont effect cash flow as the administration wont use it.

    If the club were liquidated Fratton Park would be sold off and the parachute payments would be invalided even if the club reformed.

    If the club were liquidated the Birch would expect the supporters trust to form a new one.

    Chainrai's representatives state that they will not allow the club to be liquidated.

    HMRC's proposal is to get a CVA, liquidate the old company - not the club, just the company - and investigate what happened.

    Chainrai's representatives vote against HMRC's proposals but the majority accept.
     
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  5. MAJR

    MAJR Well-Known Member

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    HMRC proposal rejected because of Chainrai and CSI's vote. As main creditors they carried enough weight to stop it.

    Chainrai's representatives say Portpin will pay small creditors if they come back in.
     
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    devonFRATTONiser Well-Known Member
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    This sounds like it's getting messy
     
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  7. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    I feel like i've heard that before.
     
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  8. Wooperts_duck

    Wooperts_duck Well-Known Member
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    No,No,No - they mean it this time, honest <whistle>
     
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  9. Singing Blue 3

    Singing Blue 3 Well-Known Member

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    Are we now signing Messi?, I thought Apple was looking at Fanni in the Summer?<whistle>
     
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  10. Wooperts_duck

    Wooperts_duck Well-Known Member
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    All I can say is that I'm relieved there isn't a player out there somewhere called Buttocks or Minge.............
     
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  11. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    There's always Danny ****tu.:)
     
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  12. mikecloud1984

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    I think this one revelation (but we already knew it) is interesting - what have Chanrai/CSI been hiding?

    They MUST be hiding something in the accounts - they can't not be!
     
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  13. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that seems a bit...fishy to me.
     
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    Not surprised with all this talk of Fannis and minges...

    Sorry, I'll go now <whistle>
     
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  15. mikecloud1984

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    .....and just when I thought I would get an intelligent answer.....you two pop up....lolz. :laugh:
     
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  16. RickieLambertsGoldenBoot

    RickieLambertsGoldenBoot Well-Known Member

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    I will honestly find it incredible if the club makes it through to next season...
     
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  17. 3rd eye

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    Aye........... then you'll have to start calling us The Incredibles! <doh>
     
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  18. Piebacca

    Piebacca Well-Known Member

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    But we have so many names for you already!:)
     
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  19. mikecloud1984

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    We will.

    But it puts us in the position of Chanrai vs Liquidation.

    Unfortunately, Chanrai looks like he will be the only option.

    You can expect me at away games, but seriously debating how much money I want line his pocket with at FP - a sad state of affairs.
     
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  20. Itchen Masack

    Itchen Masack Well-Known Member

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    Always been a fan of Gash myself, Michael Gash at Cambridge United who is someone you should be looking at :)

    ps there was a Minge, he played for germany. Also reminds me of that photo of, was it Gary Neville? where the minge flag was held up behind him :p
     
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