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Social Cleansing, a great idea

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Steven Royston O'Neill, Apr 25, 2012.

  1. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    Well I hear that a lot on here, I gave up a job and moved here from Blyth because i met my wife on the net, we have 4 great kids 2 are mine, 7 and 3 yr old Girls.

    She wont move as ALL her family is down here, I am not moving without her and the kids, not seeing my kids grow up would kill me, not for £12,000 a year or whatever anyway, it would have to be worth my while, and even i know I am not likely to jump into a £40,000pa job (if i could I would, but its not going to happen)

    I still have 7 days of this course to go so I may strike lucky, if not, I know more than I did when i started, so hopefully that will put me in good stead, I have got backup plans, but they are very likely to fail miserably, but they could just as easy be a roaring success, so hopefully i can get something off the ground very soon and put it into action.
     
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  2. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    agree reg and all the pensions gone up the swannie <bubbly>
     
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  3. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    You come across as determined and driven Steve, I reckon there's something just round the corner mate
     
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  4. trouble_n_stripes

    trouble_n_stripes Active Member

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    Haven't really gone through reading every comment on this thread, but must sympathise with blackcatsteve.

    I've never been a 'sponger' if I'm allowed to use that term. But went through a difficult stage where I could not
    find a job which matched my experience/qualifications.

    I seemed to find that the vacancies seemed to be filled by individuals that wern't even born in the UK.

    No disrepect, but I got totally disillusioned by what was happening in the UK that I finally decided to move abroad
    and start my own business.

    I've never looked back.

    The UK have for a long time, seem to look after immigrant's more than their own.
     
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  5. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    RAWhite

    My name is there for you to see, you don't need to say "or whatever your name is"...it's pretty easy, copy and paste if you have a bad short term memory.

    Firstly...High Risk? You mean, historically the most stable markets of all? The whole point of them being public is so that they can generate funds to loan to people who are greedy, or obsessed with consuming. The safe option is gold, but when somebody wants a loan and you turn around and say "the good news is you're accepted but the bad news is, you can't have it until the price of gold goes up and we can release some capital" it's not really going to satisfy said person's obsession for consuming is it?

    If there was a low risk market to invest people's money in which would work better then everybody would be putting their money there. Unfortunately, where most people are concerned, there isn't this option. The analysts who work on the stock markets are wolves, they are ruthless - don't for one second think they care about the kid in the street with his £100 savings, they care about making a mint for themselves, and to do that they ABSOLUTELY MUST invest your money correctly and turn it into more money.

    I'm sure you know already but...

    1. Unemployment rate rises in United States due to companies making cutbacks after poor returns.
    2. US enters recession - (two successive quarter returns where the economy is shrinking).
    3. People getting fired/laid off left right and centre. Unemployment rate rises again...

    Points 1-3 do not indicate a worldwide financial meltdown, but the media as you have probably seen 5/6 times just in the last 12 months, will use this information as a precursor for complete global financial destruction-based headlines, funnily enough, to sell papers.

    4. US still in recession - economy is shrinking so banks stop lending, (people out of work cannot borrow, or pay back what they have borrowed).
    5. US as a whole is making less money, a shrinking economy calls for a loan from the IMF.
    6. IMF/World Bank deem US a riskier customer so interest rate is higher - just like a high street loan shark would do.
    7. Banks default on their interest repayments because they cannot afford the repayments because people in the street, who started off greedy and obsessed with consuming, are out of work and unable to pay back loans, the banks make no money.
    8. Bank collapses - Bear Stearns for example, huge bank.
    9. Shock waves sent around the world from collapse of bank, people panic, pull money out of banks, banks have no money to pay bills/loans/interest.
    10. Bank on brink of collapsing - needs government bailout.
    11. Banks no longer extending credit lines for companies (THEY HAVE NO MONEY TO LEND), companies start to make people redundant.
    12. Another country in recession.

    Points 5-12 can happen in hours.

    The ideal that you have created is that you can point the finger at people in suits in London/New York for them losing your money, when the service they offered you in the first place was always carrying risk. The 2007 collapse wasn't the first time this has happened so why go around like we're the only generation it's happened to? Nobody forces you to save with banks, or to bank with particular chains of banks. If lazy people stand up and do some research once in a while, they'll realise that sticking with one bank for 20 years is a recipe for disaster. Look at the super powers of the world, India, China - look at their banks, harvesting gold for fun, yet ignorant Bob still sticks his entire life savings in The Bank of Scotland.

    I obviously don't know what I'm talking about though, obviously it's bankers faults for investing in high risk shares.
     
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  6. froggy1973

    froggy1973 Well-Known Member

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    The new standard of medical that invalidity benefit claimants go through means even those with quite severe disabilities are still deemed fit to work.
     
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  7. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Oh and on the subject of getting a job, having no car and very limited opportunity in your area. I have great respect for anyone who is going to volunteer to get their foot in the door, so a massive good luck to you in your search for a job.

    One of my friends was out of work last year, he started messing about with B-2-B sites, such as Alibaba - these sites have got people who want to buy, and people who want to sell. This guy had no experience in sales/buying, he just put 2 and 2 together to make 4, it's not rocket science.
     
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  8. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but in my opinion most of this is utter bollocks..It is quite obvious to anyone who has researched the causes of the global economic recession, is that iw was made a hundred times worse by unregulated bankers gambling away pensions and savings bonds on high risk investments.... Not historically safe ones, but ones that promised short-term fast profits...The rest is history!
     
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