I wonder sometimes, after the various things JT has done to let him and the club down, how he hasnt been summoned to Ron Gourlay's office and had a severe dressing down! OK he has done a great job on the pitch, but one thing he should never be allowed to get away with is giving CFC a bad name! The club must always come before the so called "stars"!
"Everyone knows I'm not that sort of player" Seems to be that sort of person, never mind just 'player' As for the Court case, if you've seen that video, be honest with yourself, it's obvious what was said, and in what manner. An expensive barrister can get anyone off anything, particularly against an overworked CPS lawyer, you only need to consider the famous 'self-defence' gang assault perpetrated by A.N.Other highly paid footballer to see that. Can't see you banning him from the ground whatever the result, but a fan would be lifetime banned. Congratulations on an excellent result, and hope you can overcome the suspensions. The coverage I've seen constantly refers to the success of an English club, but I reckon a great deal of the success lays with you having an Italian manager ( mean't to be a compliment )
As a Brit, though Welsh living in the USA and getting increased coverage of Premier League and UEFA matches here I was looking forward to the Chelsea Barca game and support any Brit team playing in those games. Swansea is my team , make no mistake but loved Chelsea especially in the old days of Peter Osgood, Charlie George and all. What a team. Yes I'm old. John Terry, he's a twat, nothing else for it he's just a twat and I am glad to see that Chelsea supporters on here finally agree. How stupid can you get to do that. like there are no cameras on you? His History goes before him.Let his team down, yet again, let his fans down who pay his wages yet again, let England down yet again. Can't wait for the result of the racist court case to come through, no doubt there and the skank will hopefully get what he deserves But, what a fantastic performance defensively in the second half by Chelsea, you really dug in there against the recognized best team in the world and then the Torres goal, a boy's own story, fantastic result. Well done Chelsea and good luck in the final but John Terry really is a twat.
Charlie George was an Arsenal player....I think you mean Charlie Cooke,one of the greatest players we ever had.
Well, I'm going to have to seriously adjust my view of Chelsea supporters after reading this thread......very refreshing to see common sense and a sense of good old right and wrong overcome blind loyalty in someone who seems to make a habit of letting your club down in embarrassing ways. Terry will suffer through deservedly missing the final - Roy Keane very good on how crushing this is in his autobiography when he was suspended for the Utd final v Bayern. Congratulations on a great performance. Now hoping that your players will be emotionally and physically drained for Sunday and that you will be targeting the Newcastle game as the critical one for 4 th place. Let's hope this handshake rubbish ( why can't the Prem be sensible like the FA and drop what is a meaningless gesture anyway?) doesn't overshadow the West London Classico on Sunday.
I have been a loyal fan of JT for many many years, and have always admired him as a great leader and someone who gives everything every game. A true captain. I have supported him maybe blindly during a few of his stupid off the pitch adventures. But after that sending off I can no longer support him. A stupid thing to do and he dropped everyone in the ****. People say we are lucky we won as it kind of makes it less of an issue, but we now have to play a champions league final without our captain. He came across as a massive dick when he said some excuse about his momentum pushing him into that guy, before he had even seen the replay. What really hurts is he now proves himself to be a liar. Exactly what he doesn't need to do before his hearing. I said it during the game, and I still think it now. It doesn't matter what he has done in the past, but for what he did he should be sacked. Nothing can excuse that.
Same, I've defended the guy to the hilt, to the point where even my own integrity has been on the line, but I'm fed up of it now. He knew exactly what he was doing, it was premeditated. We were 1-0 down under the cosh with Sanchez looking a threat and he believed a Barca goal was imminent therefore tried to give him a dead leg and kill for time to disrupt their rhythm. What hurts most of all, is that clearly he had no belief we could win, as I've said there is no way he'd of risked not being able to play in the final if we thought we'd have gone through, his ego wouldn't have been able to handle it. Staggering lack of belief and that alone is why if we did win it, IMO he shouldn't be able to lift the trophy, that honour should go to those who deserve it and didn't let us down and I include Ramires, Ivanovic and Meireles (even though I don't like him) in that as well
Good post DL I think we have all had the view that his on the field attributes are what really matter, and in that area he has been undoubtedly an exceptional part of our team for a very long time. His off the field mis-demeanours have in the majority been those of a "lad" who has been thrown a lot of money and given great stature through his abilities, but had no real moral guidance, and has little of his own in terms of self discipline...Drunken verbal abuse after 911, selling his Wembley privileges as England Captain, infidelity towards his wife and in the same his two children, complusive gambling etc... This season however has been a little different, as there are two major incidents on the field that have really made us all question his true personality...The stupid action against Barca, which could have cost the club, the team and the fans dear in terms of prestige, and the far more serious, and indeed sinister, alledged racist abuse of another human being...and let's not forget, this isn't the first time the allegation has been made as Ledley King nearly ripped his head off a few years back. People have failings as human beings, no one is perfect. His indiscretions previously amounted to little more than a bloke with a big gob that spends loads of money and shags around... This year though the line has been crossed, and the gravity of his actions are carrying far more weight than before. On the basis of what he did on Tuesday, does he warrant a place in the England team? Would he do the same in a key match for his country? On the basis of what he is alledged to have said to Anton Ferdinand, he certainly doesn't deserve to go, but our law is founded upon an individual being assumed to be innocent until proven guilty. If he indeed is proven innocent of the charge, then fair enough, but he has admitted saying the words and that in itself is disgraceful in any context.
In a funny sort of way I thought his sending off stirred your guys into giving what was a magnificent performance, it could have been different had he stayed on, however you are right he was twat. Good luck in final.
It did indeed, but the point being you don't expect your captain to get invloved in a violent off the ball incident when you have just gone 1-0 down in a semi final of the most prestigious club tournament in football against the widley claimed best team on the planet.
Typical JT is the fact that now he is appealling to lift the trophy if CFC win it. Get lost will you JT. I'm glad CFC won because the papers woulda been all about how they lost cos their captain was sent off. Thank God they won it without Mr Breadhead. If you win I hope Lamps is first up the podium, model professional and model man. Then again i'd rather you lost so that Newcastle get in the CL. Would make for a better story. No offense. With all due respect. Lol
I dont think Robbie is going to take his foot off the gas, as far as the top 4 is concerned! Every game he takes one at a time and that includes PL, FA Cup final and CL final! Those who will miss the CL through suspension will have to die on the hill in the other games!
Good to read some honest and frank opinions from Chelsea fans on here about that Terry red card which nearly cost you guys a place in the final. He is a leader on the pitch but what a **** off it. A couple of my Chelsea mates want him out of the club and if the court verdict judges him to be guilty in the Anton Ferdinand case, his career is finished in this country.
He's been a great servant to us and will still go down as a club legend and rightly so. I won't forget all the good things he has done for us but as you say enough is enough now. And the Ledley King incident still springs to mind, even though it was Poll I don't see why he'd send him off for no reason, he must of done or said something and if it was a racial slur I'm convinced it was a cover up as they wouldn't have wanted it leaking to the press. The best thing about Tuesday for me was not just the fact we went through but the fact we proved we could cope without him, something I would not have perhaps said in previous seasons. Great defender, great player but if proven guilty of the Anton thing compounded by his actions on Tuesday I would certainly consider letting him go. He's a player on huge money as well.
I was saying the same thing to my mate a few days ago to be honest even before the Barca game. Its one thing after the other with JT, first his drug dealing family, then the whole Vanessa Peroncel/Wayne Bridge fiasco, then the Anton Ferdinand racism thing, now this red card against Barca. The guy has been a legend on the pitch for us, but there comes a time where you have to wonder if his poison will affect the whole team. I dont think anyone can deny that the Wayne Bridge fiasco unsettled our whole squad that time we lost 4-2 to City at the Bridge, it was hanging in the air like a bad smell. When his stupidity starts affecting CFC as a team, then the time has to come where we have to assess if we are best off giving him the elbow.
Really tough this one, looking at each of the incidents in isolation: #alleged drug dealing family - not his fault really, is it? #Wayne Bridge - well, they weren't together at the time, everyone's at it, so what's the problem #alleged racism - only alleged, and if he did say those words, then he only said them as a question back to Anton #sending off against Barca - he was running quickly, couldn't stop, so lifted his leg to slow him down...the knee was clearly accidental. Also, Zidane was more violent in a World Cup Final, and everyone still loves him #abuses refs - well, look at Rooney, Giggs, Stevie Me etc.etc, all of the "great" players do it Maybe, just maybe, individually, you (I) could argue the toss on these individual issues, but lump them together and it becomes a problem for the club and, therefore, us fans. The issue is, it would take a very, very, very brave man to do it, unless under Roman's direct instructions. Add to this that he is getting older, we do have some capable youngsters doing very well in the youth team, as well as Cahill, Luiz and Ivanovic, and maybe it is time for him to step-back/down. Trouble is, the only person that will make that decision is JT. He has done amazing things for us, but if he steps down (due to pressure etc.), he'll want to do something at the club. Do we want a thug*, drug-dealing and thieving parents*, short-fused*, racist*, bigamist* (*alleged) teaching the Chelsea players of the future?
Croc, long time and all that Has your absence been due to a prolonged spell in Broadmoor you mad bastard?
Not exactly, although it's felt like it at times. Funny you should mention Broadmoor though, as I live within the siren sounding for that lovely hotel. Nice air-raid sound every Monday at 10am whcih, when you hear it for the first time is slightly concerning. Just been a tad busy - the problem with site like this (and there aren't any other quite like this.....was that a Kermit the Frog song....sorry, I digress), is that once one starts getting on one's high horse, its often difficult to stop (without accidently kneeing someone in the back, anyway). Interesting times at the Bridge right now (other than the panic about 4th). Are all the "old boys" still around on here?
