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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Flappy Flanagan (JK), Apr 19, 2012.

  1. Foredeckdave

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    shows your complete lack of accounting knowledge
     
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  2. CPofL KTBFFH

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    You keep saying that but once again fail to point out what you think is wrong LOL

    I wonder why that is LOL
     
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  3. Swarbs

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    You could say the same thing about any privately held debts tbh. No one knows where FSG got the funding to pay off the H&G debt for example cos, ironically enough, FSG is incorporated in super secret Delaware, the same place as Red Football which is the company that own's Utd. The only reason people believe Liverpool is debt free is cos the owners say they are, but as the whole Fordstam thing has shown at Chelsea there are many ways for a club to be declared 'debt free' when there is still a ton of debt hanging over the club.

    In fact, FSG are arguably more secretive than the Glazers since the bond issue for Utd - almost everything we know about the finances of FSG and Liverpool at the moment comes from the fact that the New York Times still has a small stake! If anything, this is the area the footballing authorities should be looking at - as well as restricting the amount of money owners can pour into a club the FA and UEFA need to consider where this money comes from and how sustainable it is. That's not a pop at Liverpool btw, just a comment on football in general right now.
     
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  4. Swarbs

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    UKSV is the company that owns Liverpool you bell end <laugh> The 'debt' is the same as the £740 million the company that owns Chelsea owes Abramovich - just a financial structure to try and make it easier for FSG to take money from the club should they want to.
     
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  5. CPofL KTBFFH

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    What part do you not understand?


    'Contrary to media reports today, other than a small residual balance Chelsea Football Club and our parent company Chelsea FC plc are debt free and do not owe any money to our shareholder (Fordstam Ltd). Neither do we owe any money to Roman Abramovich.


    'http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2055740,00.html
     
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  6. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    From Swarbs comment....

    Show us where it says Liverpool are debt free......

    Newspaper quotes will not be accepted and Matth10 will be sent round to tell you a story.
     
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  7. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    John Terry made sure of that the dirty whore!

    Seriously though, I hope you dont owe any money as the guys a **** and with the way he treats humans means a football club would be of no concern to him.
     
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  8. CPofL KTBFFH

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    Liverpool have at least 105M of debt.
    UKSV,an off shoot of NESV,lent them 105M to pay off the bank.
     
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  9. CPofL KTBFFH

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    Seriously?

    He has invested the best part of 1 BILLION and you still doubt his motives?

    You're off you ****ing rocker.
     
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  10. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Its the same as you chucking a quid at a bum tbh. Hes caused more harm than good in recent years and if you cannot see it then so be it.

    It wont be long til hes sacking managers after just 1 game, hes no patience and in football to succeed you need loads of it. Hes literally banking on CL success right now.

    Real chairmen stand by their managers and players. If not you are set to fail.
     
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  11. CPofL KTBFFH

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    Other than SAF can you give me an example of sustained success achieved by sticking with a manager?
    Every time we've sacked a manager mid season we've won a trophy.

    Yep,your theory just don't stand up at all does it. Another manager another final = fine by me
     
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  12. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Real kept mourinho after winning nothing but the spanish cup last season where in the past managers have been sacked for winning titles. Its payed off this season. Chelseas longest serving manager of the last decade is your most successful and not just by a little bit, he ****s all over every single manager you have had.

    United are proof that standing by your manager will bring rewards, Wolves are an example that sacking managers mid season is a stupid idea. You say you have another cup final but your season will be consdered a failure if you dont get Champions League football next season so another manager will get the sack. See its all well and good getting to finals but if your league form is poor and your not getting the points then you just become Liverpool FC part 2.

    You dont want that!
     
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  13. CPofL KTBFFH

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    Other than United we are the most successful team of the last decade. Infact since we won the FA Cup in 1997 so 15 years.

    And you're trying to tell me that's failure.....seriously,you're ****ing stupid.
     
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    No, up until this season its been ok, you have been up there but in recent years hes got more sack happy and you have got worse. Its no coincidence.

    How can you not see it. The most positive spin I can put on it is you are fast becoming a cup team.

    Like I said....Liverpoolesque.
     
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  15. CPofL KTBFFH

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    It's only 2010 that we did the double for our best season ever.

    For the love of god you really are stupid.
     
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  16. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    best ever season? That was under Jose when you got 95 points imo.

    Maybe you are just too used too having no stability, maybe you are right that it gets you to cup finals but Carlo aside the rest of your managers havent delivered since Jose and his super manager skills.
     
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  17. Foredeckdave

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    Don't bother Swarbs, as his later comments prove, neither you nor I can put in what God left out.
     
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  18. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Should add they havent delivered as they have had less than a season to do so.
     
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  19. CPofL KTBFFH

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    What part do you not understand?


    'Contrary to media reports today, other than a small residual balance Chelsea Football Club and our parent company Chelsea FC plc are debt free and do not owe any money to our shareholder (Fordstam Ltd). Neither do we owe any money to Roman Abramovich.


    'http://www.chelseafc.com/page/LatestNews/0,,10268~2055740,00.html
     
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  20. Foredeckdave

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    I don't understand why somebody who displays so little understanding of corporate finance continues to pretend that he does.
     
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