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Chelsea vs Barcelona

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by daffy_matth10, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. Christiansmith

    Christiansmith Well-Known Member

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    To be fair Drogba didn't fall in the penalty area because no Barcelona player came within 5 feet of him, scared of him dropping like a shot donkey. If you say Drogba is not a cheat then you are saying young isn't a cheat too. Sending a player off is not his problem it is the refs.
     
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    BTW sixth best team in the English premiership beat the best team in Europe... <whistle>
     
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  3. Antonio-Valencia

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    So your saying, its alright to dive outside the penalty area? inside or outside a DIVE IS A DIVE... so your saying, to show showmanship to break a teams rythm and to get your breath backs, its ok to dive?

    Your saying like apart from the penalty area you are allowed to dive outside that area?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlEOX_LqV2M look at this

    Drogba dives all the time, and you know thats true, so by your saying, is it ok for Ashley Young to dive outside the penalty area? is it?

    listen mate, im glad Chelsea won today, i was hoping Chelsea to beat Barca today but when i saw Drogba going down soo easily put me off after you chelsea fans were having a go at Young.
     
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  4. Antonio-Valencia

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    so your saying Drogba is not a cheat, ok il take that as Ashley Young is not a cheat as well
     
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  5. Antonio-Valencia

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    remember last season, out of everyone, Arsenal beat them
     
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  6. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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  7. Antonio-Valencia

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    what the hell you saying matth?
     
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  10. Yurilly

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    In that case the ref stopping the match is not Drogba's problem, it's the ref's.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Your ****ing getting desperate kid.

    Fabrice Muamba fell on the pitch,and by the way he died but was thankfully revived when he got to hospital in time but sadly the poor Italian lad wasn't so lucky.

    So your logic says that if Drogba plays injured or dead its fair play and the refs responsibility to decide if hes injured or dead?

    Just ****ing admit that along with others in light of Muamba he should'nt feign serious injury!
     
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  12. Yurilly

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    The Napoli thing was a bit naughty, but the ref didn't punish the player at all. He gave a free-kick, but again there was contact and as we have already established, when there is contact - go down. Now Busquets on the other hand got the Inter Milan player (I believe it was Motta) sent off with his identical theatrics. However against Barca anything goes. They really can be a nasty bunch with all the cheats they have in their squad. In many ways Barcelona are actually to blame for Drogba's theatrics. In fact they may be indirectly responsible for turning him into a diver. There is a belief (and I am sure you have heard of it) that Barca teach their players how and when to dive and make over-react injuries or even pretend that you have one. Mourinho worked at Barca as a translator and later an assistant manager and there he learned these tricks also. There is no doubt that Mourinho also tells his players to dive. It is bad sportsmanship, but sadly that's what happens when you learn your trade at Barca. He came to Chelsea and brought in Drogba and he told and taught Drogba the same thing he had been told and taught.

    Now everyone in the world knows Drogba makes a meal of things. We know it, he knows it, everyone knows it. In many ways it is now part of his game. But ask yourself this, is it really a reputation you would like to have? Because of it, fans have called him the worst names and insults in the book, made offensively racial comments, pointed lasers in his eyes, made death threats to him. Is that really the type of reputation that you want for Young? Because if you excuse it and let him dive, then it will become a part of his game and nothing but abuse that is what he will get. Hence why we criticise it for him. Because we do not want any more divers spoiling our beautiful game. People are so used to Drogba's theatrics, that they expect it and turn a blind eye to it.

    Listen let me give you another example. Scholes is a fantastic player. One of the best ever for United and for the Premier League. But his tackling is borderline atrocious. The way he tackles could lead to breaking players' legs and ending their careers (thankfully it hasn't yet). Plenty of times he gets away with it. Yet United fans excuse it they say it's not that he is a nasty player, he just doesn't know how to tackle. The media and pundits laugh it off in a similar way. Yet it doesn't mean you would excuse an opposition player making a bad challenge on your one would it? So if you call Chelsea fans hypocrite, then that would also make you hypocrites (and in our defence we have many a time criticised, shouted at and even booed Drogba for his antics). Now replace Scholes with Drogba and tackling with diving. I'm sure it makes a lot more sense now why I still do not excuse Young's antics.

    Regardless of all that though, cheers for backing us. In the still very unlikely scenario that we get through to the final, deep down you will feel like the right result and justice has come to pass. Barcelona and all their brown nosers will try and feed you the rubbish that we are anti-football, enemies of football, killing the sport with our style of play and tactics and that the face of football has shed a tear down its face (yes I have the smallest violin in the world ready to play). Barca like to self-reflect when they don't get their way and act like the spoilt brats they really are. But if it feels right, it usually is <ok>
     
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  13. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Lad,your seriously missing the point.

    Drogba goes down and he not only puts pressure on the ref to punish opposition players that haven't touched him,but also puts needless pressure on the ref(in view of recent events regarding Muamba)to stop the game,which is pure cheating of the worst kind.

    Instead of condoning it you should be slating him and every other player that does it.
     
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  14. Yurilly

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    Please do get off your high horse. He said it's the ref's decision to give a red card. He has to by the rule of the book, but what caused it to have to come to that? It was the player diving in the first place which led to it. I was attempting to show him why the example he gave was a foolish one.

    Oh and Muamba didn't die, I'm sure you'll find he's alive and is having a great recovery. You're a Liverpool fan and yet you believe that tabloid rubbish (MUAMBA WAS DEAD FOR 78 MINUTES) that tries to sell papers on another person's misery?

    Drogba hasn't ever pretended to be dead, but he's certainly not the first to pretend that he's injured and definitely not the last. If the boy who cried wolf comes back to haunt him though then he will only have himself to blame, as will others who feign injury. A back heel in the nuts does hurt however I once just got brushed on there once and I had to take a time out.
     
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  15. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Oh,so Muamba wasn't dead?

    I cant believe that you'd go to this extreme to score points just because of Young's dive.

    Ffs lad doctors pronounced Muamba dead on the pitch at the Lane,Drogba doesn't have to pretend to be dead mate but the referee has to make sure the injury he's pretenting to have is real or not.

    Imagine if it was Drogba instead of Muamba lying on the ground and his reputation caused the ref to play on,who'd be to blame,Drogba or the Ref?
     
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  16. Trilogy

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    Drogba.
     
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  17. Yurilly

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    No, Muamba wasn't dead. Show me proof that doctors pronounced Muamba was dead (if you know what it is). You do not come back to life when you die. When you're dead, you're dead. If you truly believe such nonsense then why don't you go dig up buried people and try to bring them back to life and see how that goes? If you're successful by any chance let me know so you can come and revive my nan. Me and her need to have words about where all the inheritance went.

    And if it were to happen to Drogba then he would be the one to blame because of his reputation (I already told you that though so I'm not sure why you are asking). With that said, refs can be a disgrace at times too in this scenario. I remember when Stephen Hunt drop kneed Cech on his skull and fractured it, Mike Riley tried to get him to crawl off the pitch. He was a truly odious man that Riley.
     
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  18. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    <laugh>

    Ok to make it easier for you to understand he stopped breathing for 78 minutes,and stop swerving the issue lad.

    Drogba's antics are a disgrace and you said he never tries to get anyone sent off with his theatrics,i proved you wrong end of.

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  19. Yurilly

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    Not breathing =/= dead

    Going into cardiac arrest does not mean you are dead. It's not even something that is difficult to comprehend, it'c basic common sense.

    Yes Drogba's antics are a disgrace to the game, but the Napoli thing was more him trying to waste time and stop Napoli's attack. He knew the referee was not going to send the Napoli player off and he was right.
     
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