Hamilton did say that he was going to stay at McLaren all his career, but that was before he realised it might not be all plain sailing to his umpteen championships. I wonder if he also realised that the team might employ a decent driver that could show him up. Maybe Hamilton never envisaged that he might become unpopular at McLaren. I think this is a strong possibility given his large number of on track mistakes, his frequent brainless outbursts and his childish complaining from the cockpit. Another question is which team would want Hamilton, considering the enormous amount of baggage that he has built up over these few short years he has been in F1? There are plenty of GP2 winners knocking around out there that do not have the enormous sense of entitlement that Hamilton obviously has. If I was a team owner I would not touch Hamilton with a barge pole.
Kimi maybe? That's if McLaren are willing to buy out his contract for the last year... Other than that, maybe Kamui or Di Resta or Webber!
@Basil_Brushzenberger hamilton is an extremely popular f1 driver,and has brought alot of excitement to f1,these things are very important. and this childish complaining from the cockpit,,,what childish complaining? yeah he said 1 stupid thing last season,but look at vettel,only 3 races in and he's been more disrespectful than lewis was last season. and wasnt alonso a decent driver?surely matching a driver as good as alonso gave him much confidence,and then winning a world championship a season later. for me lewis believes its all about his own performances ie if he performs to his best level he can beat anyone. and as far as sense of entitlement,all the big names in f1 have that,alonso,vettel,even button is getting it,so why do you only have a problem with lewis?
"hamilton is an extremely popular f1 driver,and has brought alot of excitement to f1,these things are very important." I know. I have been watching F1 for about 35 years. I'm not sure how these things are very important, though. "and this childish complaining from the cockpit,,,what childish complaining?" Please don't make me go away and find examples for you. I can't at the moment, but if you can't accept the truth of my statement, I may have to. "for me lewis believes its all about his own performances ie if he performs to his best level he can beat anyone." Your beliefs about other people's beliefs are entirely worthless. Also on how many occasions over the last few season did Hamilton say that he got everything he could out of the car and still came in off the podium? I think even Hamilton believes it might have something to do with the car. "and as far as sense of entitlement,all the big names in f1 have that,alonso,vettel,even button is getting it,so why do you only have a problem with lewis?" Funnily enough I have warmed to Alonso. I think the way he has dealt with not having the best car has been an object lesson on how to get on with it, rather than pout and be childish like Hamilton has done. If you think that Vettel and Button have a sense of entitlement you need yourhead examining.
This has to be a joke. This sort of exchange goes on on this site thousands of times a day without moderators getting involved. What line have I crossed here? Maybe GUEST could have had a little more respect for me and allowed me my own opinions before trying to lecture me on things he clearly knows nothing about.
Hi Basil. You may not be interested, but here are a few of my thoughts, if I may be so bold: [1] I happen to agree with the statement you've quoted. People tend to agree with what they believe, so I hope it is obvious that I agree with it because I believe it.* [2] Your response to our GUEST would appear, on the face of it, to be unnecessarily harsh. As a member of this forum, I am interested in his/her beliefs, as well as yours. [3] I would agree that since throwing tantrums at McLaren, and being granted the status he demanded at Ferrari, Alonso has matured into a good example of how to knuckle down to work; albeit from the privileged position of comprehensively dominating his rather less capable team-mate; who, incidentally, took a massive psychological blow when - contrary to rules designed to preclude team orders - he was forced to cede a position to his favoured (and therefore far happier) team-mate at Hockenheim. As a consequence of being given everything he demanded - including team orders in his favour when needed - wouldn't you agree that one could make a good case for Alonso, perhaps more than anyone else, as having a sense of entitlement?- - -o0o- - - *P.S. It is also my belief that you do not agree with things you do not believe. But I admit: this is only my opinion.
Unless there is some kind of massvie bust up i cant see anything other than him signing a long contract. Why would Hamilton want to leave McLaren? In terms of competitiveness McLaren are nearly always at the front (23 TOP 3 WCC finishes in 30 years) and seem the quickest this year. The only other thing mentioned is Button and the idea that he wants to be No1. I cant really see that either especially sice he is unlikely to get an easier ride at Red Bull or Ferrari. Mercedes has been mentioned but the same promise of competitiveness is absent.
Maybe on other boards its ok but not on the F1 board. All opinions are valued and just because someone has a different opinion it does not mean their views are worthless or they need their head examined. Guest was entirely civil to you so I see no need for the retort. For more info have a look Here
I think he'll stay at McLaren. Personally, I consider it more likely that Mercedes would promote someone like Hulkenberg of Di Resta when Schumacher retires, rather than attempt to sign Lewis.
I have no idea why people want to get involved. Why not just let me have my opinions? I don't understand why someone's beliefs about what someone else believes are somehow valid. If a contributor was able to demonstrate someone's beliefs with quotations then the contributor's beliefs would carry a bit more significance, but they weren't. As it is I find it difficult to find any worth in either GUEST's belief or Hamilton's (if that is what he really believes). Many times he has performed to his best, because he has told the media so after the race, but finished down the order. This proves either GUEST's or Hamilton's (speculative) beliefs are wrong. I'm not going to roll over and let people attempt to correct me, when I have my own opinions, especially when I think their opinions are demonstrably wrong. Surely we have to keep the discussions connected to some sort of reality. Is it really ok to claim that "I believe that such and such a driver believes this" when facts prove otherwise? Good point about Alonso, though.
I'd personally like to be able to discuss Hamilton without people feeling the need to express their dislike of him for what seems the millionth time. We hear them in EVERY Hamiltions thread, we hear the same criticisms of perceived personality and it'd bloody boring. Puts me off discussing him at all to be quite honest. It's like a ****ing stuck record.
I agree But if it's done respectively and backed up with reasonable explanation then I don't see what is wrong.
If Hamilton leaves I could see Massa or Webber (depending on their respective contract situations) joining Mclaren. A return for Kimi is a possibility too; I remember Brundle mentioning once that Kimi is the only driver on the grid whom Mclaren are still on first-name terms with. I'd LIKE to see someone like Kobayashi, Sutil or whichever Williams driver ends up on top given a shot in a top team though, that would be my ideal scenario.
Just our of interest, was I banned yesterday!? Tried to get on via my mobile and it said the IP address was banned!? All okay now, but didn't think I had done anything naughty
If you were it wasn't due to anything F1 related. If it was off your mobile theres a chance your IP was one of a banned member by complete chance.
c'mon, If Joey Deacon was Massa's team-mate I'd expect him to have a sense of entitlement too. P.S. Banning IP's? what's the point, very very few private people (probably none) have a static IP, and it's one of the easiest and fastest things to change on a computer, all you have to do is release and renew your IP which takes about 10 seconds, no more banned IP.
Mine does that all the time, off and on, both on the internet browser and the not606 app. I keep meaning to bring it up but I forget once I get connected.
