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2012 Gulf Air Bahrain GP Chat and Predictions Thread

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by genjigonzales, Apr 15, 2012.

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Who will quash the opposition in Bahrain?

Poll closed Apr 20, 2012.
  1. Lewis Hamilton

    41.9%
  2. Jenson Button

    32.6%
  3. Fernando Alonso

    2.3%
  4. Mark Webber

    2.3%
  5. Sebastian Vettel

    7.0%
  6. Nico Rosberg

    2.3%
  7. Sergio Perez

    4.7%
  8. Kimi Räikkönen

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Kamui Kobayashi

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Bruno Senna

    2.3%
  11. Romain Grosjean

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Pastor Maldonado

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Paul di Resta

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Felipe Massa

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Other

    4.7%
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  1. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. Conflicts with what Horner has said. Quotes taken from Benson's second blog of the week. :emoticon-0115-inlov
     
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  2. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    where's Schuey ???
     
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  3. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    Are the mods sure they can't edit polls? No little pencil next to the poll question?

    If there is - could they change 'di Resta' to 'Other' and 'Other' to 'Schumacher' please?
     
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  4. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately not. We can replace it but all the existing votes will be lost.
     
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  5. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    Ah well - thanks anyway.

    If anyone thinks Schumacher will win they'll have to vote 'Other' as Forza and NNW did. <ok>
     
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  6. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    There's a very good Mark Hughes article on Sky Sports F1 HD F1 News today that consolidates cosicave's explanation.

     
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  7. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    So is thi race not live on the BBC?
     
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  8. genjigonzales

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    Yes. Streams only, unfortunately.
     
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  9. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Well played BBC!

    will pick a stream then <ok>
     
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  10. Delete Me

    Delete Me Well-Known Member

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    Good read, thanks genji.

    Should be a big learning curve for Vettel who would be wise to gather notes on what Webber is doing correctly in that car because I think he is making it look better than it is with his vast F1 experience. If not for Webber I would say that car was behind Mercedes and Lotus.

    Seb will learn a lot from Mark this year and it will make him a better racer for it, I'm excited to see how much progress he will make.


    He also has to stop doing number 1 fingers. I think that has got a bit old now and is making him look like a dork, but hay he's young he'll grow up someday.
     
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  11. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    in China there was 18 seconds between 2nd and 10th, Grosjean finished a mere 5 seconds behind Hamilton, and the cars performances seem to change from track to track, the Merc is a prime example, a week ago it was a laughing stock, nobody outside of Mercedes or the Rosberg family are laughing now.
     
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  12. Delete Me

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    *Translated from German*

    I dont get this translation at all since it pretty much talks about the opposite below. But the story is about that Vettel will have to use the Webber configuration, not the other way round...


    Red Bull in Bahrain : Webber must take Vettel exhaust

    Sebastian Vettel comes with his new car is still not clear. The problem of search is slow until the fourth race of the season in Bahrain. Red Bull bans the world champion now his old exhaust model.

    Sebastian Vettel and his Red Bull named "Abbey" are in a deep relationship crisis. "The car is not good, the car is no trust. This shakes the confidence and the fact he makes mistakes he has not done before," analyzed Red Bull's motorsport advisor Helmut Marko relentlessly the position of the Formula 1 World Champion before the Journey to the Bahrain race.


    Looking for a way out of the dip in form Vettel must now exhaust its old version no longer use and have to drive in the fourth round on Sunday instead, the model of his rival stables. "We will go to the model of Mark Webber," Marko told on Monday evening at the station Servus TV.

    The team had decided after the race in China for a "common technical coordination." Vettel must therefore adapt to his teammates, who had recently been in contrast to the Germans preferred a modified exhaust solution. The defending champions, however, was gone backwards in the fight against the problems a couple of steps and had the original hatchback version used.


    But in qualifying Vettel ended up in eleventh place again clearly behind Webber. The race was virtually impossible as a fifth. "We have learned a lot. Hopefully, we take the right lessons and propose for the next race in the correct direction," said Vettel.

    Now Red Bull has decided on a path - and the double champion must go with him, even if he does not his driving style is. "Mark has been insensitive to the driving behavior. Mark just needs four wheels, so shall he live. Vettel can not," said Marko.

    On the obvious weaknesses of the Hessian RB8 react more sensitively than the Australians. The Red Bull is missing not only the speed on the straights, and coming out of the corners, the car is no longer as fast as in previous years. Hence the dominance of Vettel and Red Bull is gone, just like it have intended the governing body with its new rules for this season.




    Leap in performance only in Barcelona
    This past season, the team drove a 18 by 19 pole position, Vettel has won eleven races. In the first three World Cup races this year, Red Bull to more than qualified fourth and Vettel came through in second place in Australia only once on the podium. Ex-racing driver Marko but asks to rest. "We must remain objective. Stress or volume is now helping anything," said the 68-year-old.

    In Bahrain, however, expected the Austrians still no performance gain. The findings so far could be implemented in early May until improvements in testing at Mugello. It was not until the Grand Prix in Barcelona is expected to be a significant step forward.



    Other translators are saying that RBR have now banned him from using it now.
     
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  13. genjigonzales

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    I'm getting slow in my old age.
     
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  14. Nazara

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    I thought you were eight. :wink:
     
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  15. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    The red bulls remind me of the renault team after 2005/06. in 07 they promised performance gains that would bring them back to race wins but never happened.
     
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  16. Di Resta is faster than u

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  17. Max Whiplash

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  18. Delete Me

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  19. BrightLampShade

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    from Xevi Pujolar, F1 Race Engineer for Pastor Maldonado

    - DRS zone, Detection zone before braking T14 and Activation zone start finish straight after T15 (after 270m)
    - is not max downforce, is a track hard on engine cooling, high brakes energy and brake cooling as well
    - circuit has Low mean corner speed, some slight elevations and corners not as long as #Shanghai or #Sepang
     
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  20. genjigonzales

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    Highly likely that someone will try but surely security is going to be maxed out? Whether it'll affect the race result or stop the race - it's possible.
     
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