With all due respect to all my QPR brothers on this forum, THIS is the best post i have seen on this site in a long time. Excellent Telford. You hit the nail perfectly on the head. We have been away from the Prem for 15 years. Top flight football has totally changed. The media say that the Prem is worth between 50-80 million a year. Well over 15 years thats a lot of money that we have not had. I know we have endured more than most fans in relation to poor managers, poor owners, poor players etc etc , but our future is bright. We have rich owners who know what they are doing and who have kept every promise they have made. This is a long term project. Relegation is a disappointing setback, but it's not the start of another massive decline. We are slowly building and if we go down we will come up stronger and better prepared. Wigan and Bolton may survive this year but i bet they will look at us with envy knowing that we have the resourses to bounce back even stringer. Not many teams that go down can say that.
i'd like to agree right now. History tells me however that i will wait until the end next season before I leap to that conclusion. Faith? Honesty? Sincere motives for the future of our club? I hope you are right but I'll reserve judgment for now. I've been here 50 years. Well almost. At the moment finding an owner who will be with us for 5 seems to be the test of loyalty.
I'm a bit confused by some comments here in the past couple days. One day ago most were saying staying up is in our own hands. Yesterday we didn't play, but Wigan beat Arsenal and now people are saying it is not in our own hands, a bit contradicting statements if you think about it. Still think we might survive this year, IF we can beat Spurs + Stoke, Boltons fixtures are not too easy, normally i'd say they'll get max 7 points in those games. But at this stage of season anything can happen, as Wigan proved yesterday. A lot depends on their 2 or 3 next fixtures. If they go on a losing streak in those games, it's going to be really hard to turn it around.
I am still positve that we will stay in the PL but will need 5 more points. Bolton is the team to look at I cannot see them getting more than 7 points. Anything is possible though and we might win against Spurs and draw at the Bridge...
I think most presumed that Wigan would be roundly beaten by Arsenal, leaving us ahead on GD and survival technically in our own hands v
As I said before, I still think it'll go to the final day of the season. I thought the Rs would have to at least match Blackburn's result on the day, but it could be that it's Bolton's result that we should look out for. A couple of things: [1] Wigan have done well these last 3-4 games. But it's no accident that they are no at the bottom with the rest of us, because they have been as poor as the Rs, Bolton, Blackburn and Wolves. They are not suddenly world-beaters and can just as easily be upset at Fulham or home to Newcastle as they were terrific last night. [2] I don't think a two-week layoff particularly benefits Bolton during the squeaky-bum phase of the season when they have points to make up. They have some difficult games ahead too. It ain't over.
5 more points! We'll be very lucky. I've been saying for ages I think we'll need 40 to be safe, and now that is looking more too low than too high now! If wigan repeat their performance of last night they will without doubt clear 40. With the number of relatively easy games Bolton have they should clear 40 as well.
Didn´t we think that Sunderland and WBA would be fairly easy games for collecting some points - same applies for Bolton at Sunderland, Stoke and Villa which leaves them with another possible 9 points (Swansea, Spurs, WBA). I strongly believe that they will get 5 points from home and 2 - 3 points away. For us I can see 5 - 6 points and perhaps if City will be out of title race we might get something there. Wigan though is in a good position now but Uber_Hoop has correctly pointed out they may also lose when expected the least.
We have also collected a few dum bells on here ... Honestly it makes me laugh If this was a punch up I guess a few on here would be hiding in the wheelie bins Stand strong and think positive and give it a go or sneak off and whimper The odds are stacked so **** the odds This is life and the best QPR season for a very long time ... Great Drama
how important was that loss to WBA now, thats the game we should have targeted to get max points & open up a nice gap but as usual we shot ourselves in the foot, there's still hope so must win against spuds who will bouyant over last nights result.
Villa are not safe yet, two home wins and a possible point at Chelsea will make a difficult target for Bolton and Villa. Wigan might just start to think they've done enough and come unstuck. It's still a long and winding road to the finish for all concerned...
It's not over yet for sure, but we got go for 12 points, and no more MH p*iss playing around for 1 as at West Brom and Man U. Unfortunately now we are in a situation where even winning all 4 games doen't guarantee us safety.
Villa can still get dragged into this.....they are 3rd bottom of the Form table, with an average of 0.83 points per game......if we get a result at Spurs and they loose to Sunderland then we are 1 point behind them.....then they have to play Bolton, where a draw would be best.....this weekend against Spurs litterally is make or break.
Blackburn being the case in point. 3-4games ago they looked like they were making a good run for it, and are now nailed on to go down. Football fans are notoriously fickle and will only evaluate on what is directly in front of them. At the beginning of the season Hanso, Lawro et al, were tipping Wolves for European football.
Kilburn, drowning men clutch at straws so that is all we can do. I am going to adopt Telford's view and hope we can do a Newcastle next year.
The most important game was the defeat at home to Wolves, we will rue the day with Cisse's disciplinary issues. He owes us big time
We could all pick different ones! Right now I'm most p*ssed off by the last defeat to WBA which, for me, we lost mostly due to MH 's overly cautious approach. If we had of won that we would still have our destiny in our own hands.
This is my biggest gripe of the season too he has effectivly been out for 9 games and more importantly cost us dearly. However like a couple of others do not see Wigan as a done deal for staying up they have 3 very losable games and can see them getting a max of 4 points more that means we need 7 and that should be enough, question is can we do it? I also believe our points are more likely to be 1 draw Spurs 3 win Chelsea and 3 win Stoke
Yes Oslo but how did we lose to Wolves???? Complete disaster that game. Cisse's dismissal(s) cost us 3 points that game which could be the difference between staying up or going down
