Sorry I meant no lose as in if found guilty he gets a tiny fine and the real punishment would be from the FA assuming it would result in a lengthy ban. If not guilty he's off completely and it's harder to get a guilty verdict from a proper court than the FA's own opaque set of rules. I'd rather it had been dealt with by the same lot who did Suarez's case and in the long run for all involved I think it would have been better to have meted out any punishments they saw fit and it could have been forgotten about by now to an extent rather than hanging over him and the team at the Euros. Any normal individual would be ****ting bricks for sure but with his family history and the legal team on his side I fear he won't be losing too much sleep
When it's a United player involved in some controversy, we get all this "outrage" by opposition fans yet no one bats an eyelid when another club get an incident in their favour.
I do remember an almighty dive vs Atletico Madrid. Hands in the air, back arched, a hidden sniper effort Klinsmann would be proud of. And all before he even hit the deck. As he's gotten older he has definitely grown out of it, but then I think most players do the same. And ultimately like you say we can all pick out examples from whenever we want. 90% of players dive at some point, just in their own unique 'style'. I guess, but then a conviction for racist abuse would hang over the rest of his career. He'd never captain England again, would probably struggle to get a chance as a coach, all his media income would dry up. He may have a pretty ****ty rep right now, but that'd be nothing compared to as a convicted racist.
Exactly. There will be enough other football fans coming out of the woodwork to give Utd stick without Utd fans adding to it.
Whatever i do not believe in unproven speculation. We have to wonder why someone had to bring race into this when everyone else were only talking about diving.
I saw the incident earlier and i haven't changed my mind, it was a penalty but he was looking for it.
Gary Neville has his say on the matter. [video=youtube;mNx5ok60U6A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNx5ok60U6A[/video]
Professional Footballers' Association chairman Clarke Carlisle does not believe Ashley Young is a diver but says players need to be more honest. Manchester United winger Young has been criticised for going down too easily against Aston Villa and QPR, earning penalties on both occasions. But Carlisle, who was Young's team-mate at Watford, said: "I wouldn't say he is or has been prone to falling over. "He is quick and slight so it doesn't take much contact to make him go over." Carlisle did not see the latest incident at Old Trafford on Sunday, where Young fell despite minimal contact from Villa defender Ciaran Clark. “You feel let down, it's disappointing to see that, especially when there is zero contact ” Clarke Carlisle on Andy Carroll's fall against Newcastle The England forward was criticised by Newcastle defender Ryan Taylor on Twitter and even Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson admitted that Young went down "quite easily" to earn the seventh-minute spot-kick in his side's 4-0 victory. The incident came a week after Young drew a penalty from QPR midfielder Shaun Derry when he fell after being pushed in the box. Carlisle added: "The players' responsibilities are to be as honest as they possibly can but they also need protection from the referees to give the free-kicks or penalties when infringements occur." And he believes English football would benefit if retrospective action were taken against "blatant" cases of diving, such as Andy Carroll's fall against Newcastle, although the Liverpool forward was booked by referee Martin Atkinson at the time. In Scotland, Rangers midfielder Sone Aluko received a two-match ban for simulation following a 2-1 win over Dunfermline. Northampton Town defender Carlisle said: "I'd like to see what the outcomes are over the course of the season [and] whether it was considered successful because there are very much grey areas. "Like in the Ashley Young-Shaun Derry incident, there was contact, so it depends what the parameters are. Use accessible player and disable flyout menusYoung went down quite easily - Ferguson "If you are trying to judge whether there is sufficient contact, that's so hard to tell. Even in slow-motion replays you can't judge whether the contact on Ashley Young was enough to send him over. All you can see is that there was contact. "If it was for blatant cases like [Liverpool's] Andy Carroll against Newcastle, where there was no contact whatsoever and he went down then yes, I think it would be good. "Anything we can do to stamp diving out the game is progress, but you would have to establish the parameters and the protocol for reporting and investigating. "We want an honest game and we want our players to give a good example to the young guys watching because everything we do on a Saturday is replicated by the kids on a Sunday morning. "We don't want to breed a generation of young players who are actively looking to win free-kicks and penalties by diving." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17728281?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
SAF: about Ashley Young "I've had a word with Ashley - He understands where we are coming from. I hope it makes a difference"
Bryan Robson fears Man Utd's Ashley Young could get 'diver' tag Former Manchester United captain Bryan Robson fears Ashley Young could develop a reputation as "a diver". Young was criticised for going down too easily to win penalties in recent victories over QPR and Aston Villa. Robson told BBC Radio Manchester: "He's going to have to be careful because people are scrutinising it now. "The thing is, it could be in a really important game where there's a blatant penalty and he'll not get it because he gets a reputation for the diving." The 55-year-old, who spent 13 years with United and is now an ambassador at Old Trafford, continued: "He's a sensible lad and he'll stand there, look in the mirror and think 'I've got to be a bit more careful and stay on my feet a little bit'." United manager Sir Alex Ferguson admitted he thought Young "overdid" his fall to earn a spot-kick against Villa on Sunday, although he said referee Mark Halsey was correct to award a penalty. That incident came exactly a week after QPR captain Shaun Derry was sent off by Lee Mason for a challenge on Young inside the box, a decision criticised by Derry and his manager Mark Hughes in the aftermath of Rangers' 2-0 defeat. Meanwhile, former United goalkeeper Alex Stepney believes diving will remain part of football, unless the authorities clamp down on offenders. "There are players in every team that do it," Stepney, who played more than 500 times for the Red Devils between 1966 and 1978, told BBC Radio Manchester's Red Wednesday programme. "The only people that can stop it are the referee, the Premier League and the FA. "They have got to put strong punishments for diving and the only way you can do that at the time is by video. "The way they're doing it is not riding the tackle. They're throwing their feet into the other player to get the penalty. "If any player did that in our day, they would have got seen to." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17770220
He didnt dive, he was dramatically going to tie his laces, it was the referees fault for thinking it was a foul
