The Official Man Utd & Liverpool plus Chelsea, Everton and City Banter Thread!

In conclusion, you agree with me, then?
3-0 and 6-0 aren't that different. Either they put all their effort into attack, or give up completely, leaving themselves open to conceding a few more.
Notice how most goals in thrashings come towards the end? See Spurs vs. Chelsea earlier.

 

The it's hardly advantageous. A second penalty in the same game, however...

 

Not by me it hasn't, you are right that utd should of had a pen early in that game but the one he gave you just when you needed it was a shocker, so no prize there i'm afraid.

 

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Another angle

 

If the theory can't stand up to the evidence, then the theory is flawed. And ultimately, your theories are purely designed to try and explain away random chance as some sort of bias in favour of Utd.

The fact is that we have had just as many bad decisions go against us this season as for us, cos they are just random. The only reason the decisions that go in our favour help us is because we make them. And on the contrary, when the decisions go against us we make sure they don't count most of the time.

Besides which, if the penalty at 0-0 is more advantageous than the one at 3-0 up, then surely it's also more advantageous that one when you're 3-0 down and it's just a consolation goal. So why all the fuss about the penalty we got when 3-0 down at Chelsea? Ah yes, cos it wasn't a consolation goal. Whilst it may have been a consolation goal for another team, for us it was the platform for yet another comeback when other teams would have folded

 

Clear as day he catches Youngs foot and Young does not move his foot towards him.

Can we stop now?

 

We are back to that "special" UIR logic again

 

Perfect angle. How you can't see that the initiation of contact is all Young is beyond me. Clark is withdrawing the whole time. The brief time his leg is extended, Young is a good yard away.

 

I thought the penalty (and definite red card) given after ten minutes was somehow infinitely more valuable than the one given after 70 minutes when you were two or three goals down? Or are we changing the theory to fit the facts again?

 

Look at the Villa player, when he feels the contact he makes with Young he moves his foot away in terror. He knows he ****ed up basically.

 

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We're gonna have to stop. Your misreading of the movements of both players is either wilful or a tragic inability to see what is right in front of you.

No point in continuing the argument, really. You've made up your mind.

 

Trust me, its only you who doesnt get it. My special logic is just normal standard logic. Like how one decision being wrong doesnt make the next one any less wrong.

 

No, I believe that's your game, Swarbs. Always has been.

 

Of course it is. The fact that when contact was made Young had both his feet in a straight line pointing towards the ball, and was looking directly at the ball, has nothing to do with it.

Thank you and goodnight

 

I think you guys are mistaking Youngs change of direction for him moving his foot towards the ball. Look carefully, Young flicks the ball past and plants his foot to change direction as anyone would. The Villa defender catches his foot, slightly and realises his mistake.

 

Seriously mate, at times it really isn't. This is one of them. If you thought United played in green rather than red, none of us here could correct you no matter how hard we tried. You make up your mind, present evidence that actually disproves your argument, and then stick to your guns regardless.

 

I feel honoured. Do I get a parade, or a wolly pop?

OR BOTH!

WOWZA

 

I have admitted on numerous times if I was wrong or out of line on here. In this instance however I am not. I ask you again to look at Youngs position, as Swarbs also points out, his feet points towards the ball clearly showing a change of direction. At that pace and because hes changed direction, even a slight touch, especially on your stnding foot is going to cause you to fall. Young made a meal of it, we all agree there but he was fouled and in the area that will result in a penalty.

Seriously, put your head to the screen if you have to, its right there.

 

I can't be arsed after all this, Swarbs. I really can't. You and UIR can stick to your 'logic' here. I don't agree with it now, and I never will. Regardless of whether it's a United player in question.

What I will say is watch Young's right leg. Does it need to travel that far across? Does Clark's left leg move toward and touch Young's right leg, or vice versa?

If the answers are 'yes' and 'clark's leg touches young's', then what's the point in my continuing?