I missed some sitter yesterday but eventually won it for Liverpool something to smile about at last. At Blackburn also he won the game for Liverpool with stoppage time header.He himself knows what he have to do and he must do it next season.
Agree Each game say for the last 5/6 games you can see the improvement And now he has started putting a few goals away as well Will he come good for us IMO YES
He will do as he holds the future of this club (and Kenny's) in his hands . We simply cannot afford Carroll to fail.
Newcastle fan in peace. We gave him a lot of stick when he came back and all that, but most of us were convinced that he'd do well with you eventually. Couldn't believe when I saw his performances for you over most of the past year, that is not the Andy Carroll we know at all. For us he was an absolute beast, couldn't get him off the ball, would win almost every header. Team style could be a factor as we did cater to his aerial prowess but it's not as if we were hoofing it all the time. For you he looked weak and slower than usual, zero confidence etc. Kind of cliched but that price tag and pressure does weigh heavy on his shoulders I think. Most Geordies remember the player he really is and think you will eventually get to see it. Don't think he'll ever justify the price but that's football sometimes I guess - you certainly got your own back where Enrique's concerned, 5mil what a steal!
Problem is Carroll is a player who belongs in the 1980's. Long ball football and putting the ball in the box is football of the past. Look at the best sides in the world. Possesion is key to them. That is how barca and spain player. Before that it was how AC Milan played and before that it was how France and Madrid played. These top sides never played towards a big man up front. So Carroll will turn out to be a hinderence to liverpool if he starts playing every week. He will encourage you to smash it up to him which wont be good. Football has moved on, and the way to win now is to pass and keep the ball. Carroll might help you to come 4th at best. But you aint gonna win the title by playing with a target man who needs the ball in the air.
I think this assumes that it was Carroll's fault that his scoring has not been up to expectation up to now. It is not the fault of Carroll if he struggled to replicate his Newcastle form. He came to a new club, where the level of expectancy was much higher and the pressure to score and win much greater. It was a new enviroment to him and remember he is still young and has been raised in a sheltered environment. But the main reason he hadn't done it yet is that we play a different system to that of Newcastle. As was said above, we do not play to his strengths. The question is how do we do it next season? the modern game is very much pass, move and keep the ball. Crossing the ball for a big centre forward is more the 70s and 80s and could be a plan B or C for us. However he is a £35 million player. Do we keep him on the bench or do we change our style to play to his strength? This dilemma would have to be solved sooner or later.
I've seen on other boards, "Carroll looking good, not worth 35m but definately useful" That was actually on the spurs board so it is not ony LFC fans noticing his vast improvement since he first arrived. The guy actualy has a bit of skill on the ball too, once or twice he wriggled out of a cutch of three Everton players. Still horses for courses for me and he got ht ewinner in the last two games, which is what its all about, you can miss 50 sitters in a a game as long as you get the winner, thats fine
has to work as hard as he did for the last 20mins... all the time. AND focus on getting into the danger area once he does make a good play... his effort should be to bust a gut to ge tthere having laid it off. Do that and he'll score a few alright. 15-20 a year.
On the Spurs board they actually acknowledge that he would be a decent buy for £10-£15m. Which is what we have been saying, unfortunately for him he has the £35m price tag for us.
Yes there was, because Barcelona bought Ibrahimovic to avoid being predictable and have someone to win headers in the box and hold the ball up. And thats exactly how AC Milan play with him now, fire the ball up to him then play.
Have watched the full game again from yesterday and apart from his big miss (yes its the main part) nearly everything came through him and he set up several half chances. All strikers miss chances but they get forgotten about when you are scoring the winner. Andy has scored the winner in last two games and is starting to show some of the potential everyone agrees he has.
Yes, but unless it is Andy Carrol people choose to remember the miss. The rivals are set out against Carroll because he now plays for public enemy number 1. He was a great prospect and one for the future at Newcastle. I remember last year when he scored for England vs Ghana, he had barely kicked a ball for Liverpool, yet English fans of rival teams banged on about why the goal should have been disallowed etc. They were pissed off when England scored a goal just because a Liverpool player scored.
Surely this shows how ineffective Carroll is? It backs up what he said about Carroll being a target man and not being able to score even with a lot of possession.
As like most football stats it doesn't show anything of the sort. All that stat proves is exactly what it says ie Liverpool spend a lot of time in the opponents half.
It depends what sort of service you get into the box though doesn't it. What I've noticed is we often dominate possession but we have poor finishing all round (Suarez, Carroll, Downing, Henderson etc) and also we make the wrong decisions a lot of the time in the final third of the pitch. Like you saw in the game at Anfield against you we were the better team and missed numerous clear cut chances then got done on the break twice by two quality balls into the box and clinical Van Persie finishing.
Some of Carrolls hold up play is awesome and these days he keeps possession for us in some really difficult situations. Against Blackburn he had a hell of a task and without him we'd have been massively under pressure for long spells. If Carroll hadn't been transferred or played for a different club then people would rave about his hold up play. The way he's played since Christmas is no worse than how Zamora was playing when people were calling for him to get into the England team. Personally i'd like to see him played with Gerrard just off him (like he used to with Nando and like Shelvey was doing at the start of the Blackburn match) with Suarez as a wing forward on the right and Maxi/Downing on the left. Henderson then could be put in the middle as the decision to have him on the right baffles me every time.
