Based on this season, it is not unreasonable to expect to challenge for the title, or at least to have that ambition. How bad we've been and we are 6th. Even a half decent season would have left us 4th or higher, how badly the top teams are performing, we should be in with a shout but for the spectacular collapse after Rafa left. I am of the opinion that United will be no better off next season and Chelsea are in transition too, Citeh are not the finished article and Arsenal have no balls plain and simple. So why should we not be hoping to challenge next season looking at how we dropped points this season, most are from games we would normally pick up points. We must start well and gain confidence and momentum early on in the season. Kenny has some time between now and the start of next season to work on everything. I am looking forard to the next game never mind next year!!
Bringbackfootee. Thats what I'm getting at. We've had a horrendous season,and Spurs are 4 points ahead of us with a game in hand.By rights they should be out of sight.You would expect that seeing as Man United fans have said that they are vastly superior to Liverpool. Are they really.? I don't think so.Kenny has just started to put HIS stamp on the team.Don't think for one minute he's finished,because he isn't, not by a long shot.My basis on saying that Liverpool won't be challenging for top four in the next 3 years,but wll be champions in the next 3 years is based on Kenny taking Liverpool from 12th to 6th in 2 months.This is something that has been caused by something Man City don't have..and thats good management.Mancini is an imbecile. I agree with what you've said,its unlikely that Man United are going to improve.Its going to take at leas 4 years before Chelsea clear out their oldies.Man City who on paper should be running away with the league are a car crash waiting to happen.Arsenal have no back-bone.This is the basis that its not as tough as some people would hope rather than expect it to be.
KPR, this word gets thrown around a lot but deluded does apply to you. You make these bizarre statements 'will be champions in the next 3 years' and your reasons for them are complete bullshit which at best, can be described as wishful thinking. Why should it take 4 years for Chelsea to build up their team again? What are you basing that on, any evidence for it? You talk about Man city having a bad manager, but what about if they get a new one , Mourinho for example? Arsenal have no backbone fair enough, is it not possible that we may get one in the future? Its not like you are any more mentally strong than us either, your team just gave up last season, and the season before that you had the title in your grasp but choked. All your optimistic/deranged words can't mask the fact that your team are nowhere as good as you want them to be. they are on the right path, true, but that doesn't mean they will be world beaters any time soon
See Bozz - you aren't the only one who can get people to take the bait Childish I know, but it made me laugh...
Can say the same about Hernandez and MU fans. We don't say messiah we think he is a very talented footballer and are looking forward to what he will bring to the team. I think Suarez is just the sort of player United would like instead of Berba, someone who works hard, good feet great dribble good vision links up well and can pop up anywhere in the opponents half and cause damage. A very good signing for us considering we are not even guarenteed a EL place don't you think. Would you be unhappy if United had signed him?
We've had the best part of a full season to judge Hernandez, and even now I haven't heard anyone compare him to anyone better than Solksjaer. No one's said he's going to "light up the Premiership" or that we're going to build a title winning team around him! I'm not doubting Suarez' quality, but it takes more than just quality to succeed in the PL - he hasn't really had any major tests yet and has only played five games in two months so his endurance and stamina haven't been truly stretched. It'll be very interesting to see how he does once defences have had a chance to get used to him and he's faced the autumn grind on muddy pitches. Plenty of players have had a few impressive games, and people have said they'll be the next big thing, but they've faded away when faced with a full season. I wouldn't be unhappy if we'd signed him first, but I think if we had and our fans were making grand predictions for him then you guys would be shouting us down as well!
Of course we do but that doesn't mean we're going to predict that that's where we'll end up. Utd could still finish 5th! it's unlikely but possible but do utd fans talk about it? No. Because you only want the best for your club and possitivity breeds positivity
no way am i saying liverpool will win the prem next season,all i want is to see us challenge for the top 4 again and then take it from there.
souness!!!!!!!! dont even go there swarbs any just finished night shift and to knackered to reply to all this
I aint been readin the grand predictions, ones made by United fans when Veron arrived You shouldn't confuse optimism with predictions, there is a massive difference in literal meaning. We don't see it happening, we see the possibility, seeing possibility is how you move forward, without seeing what is possible we'd have square wheels. Why I am excited by his arrival, well, it is his ability to do somethng regardless of where he is on the pitch, so far he has demonstrated he is sharp and can change his game if being marked, look at Bolton and Hernandez, a lot of his goals are tapins, Bolton marked the space and he had no plan b, so he was taken off, please dont blame midweek, he's a young fellow and wanted play the 90. If route one failes with Suarez I think he has more to offer on the other areas of the pitch than Hernandez who I do not see as any sort of supplier to teammates I think Suarez has a more complete game than Hernandez
Now that hardly looks likely does it, but didn't Chelsea look like they would walk it this year and well we've seen what can happen to anyt team even the champions, thats Chelsea btw in case you didnt know. I tihnk you confuse likely with possibly, but you are pretty much a talking potatoe so I will let this one slide
I agree with that.Some players rely on space(Hernandez).others create their own(Suarez).How much space did he have when he set up Kuyts goal against Man United.He had 3 players around him...and he walked past them.To do something like that involves 3 things,belief,strength and arrogance.The same arrogance came out against Sunderland.The Sunderland keeper more or less said,you're not going to beat me from here,So Suarez arrogantly blasted the ball into the oposite corner.Now it takes a cheeky player to do what Suarez did,you do need both skill and confidence to do what he did.He has both.
Lol, sorry for reminding you of that traumatic period. Just goes to show that not all Scotsmen make good managers... That's why we're keeping our feet well on the floor this time! I think comparisons with Hernandez are a bit pointless at this stage. Not only they are completely different players, but Suarez has twice as much experience, at a much higher level and there are already signs that Liverpool are building their team around him, whereas Hernandez is being slotted in to an existing system. And like you say - Suarez is mainly there to create chances for other Liverpool players, whilst Hernandez is there to finish off the chances that other United players create. But it's interesting that you make the point about Bolton - I think that shows how easy it is for early form to go off the boil. Once teams and managers have the chance to see a player play, and work out their style and the threats they pose, it's easier for them to counter and frustrate them. And Bolton are probably one of the best sides for doing that. P.S. On an unrelated note, what do you make of Capello talking about Carroll's drinking? You reckon Dalglish has already had a word with him about that? After all, Capello already mentioned it back in November - the fact he's bringing it up again may mean he still sees it as a serious issue that hasn't improved.
I think that Capello doesn't have a clue and he's still stuck back in November. Dalglish will not let Carroll slip into his old habits; he is too good a manager to allow that to happen - Carroll wears the no.9 shirt, with that comes huge responsibility and expectation. Dalglish knows this and won't allow Carroll to come off the rails like the numerous Newcastle managers did.
There is another difference between Hernandez and Suarez.The way Hernandez plays will be easy for defenders to work out.Has he got the game intelligence to change his style so that defenders will have a big a problem with him next season as they did this.The reason why defenders have a problem with him now is that he's an unknown.Luis Suarez is harder to work out,because he's an allrounder.He can and will pop up anywhere.Not only does he play across the line,He plays up front,out wide and he's bullishly strong.He creates as many goals as he scores.And before you mention that he has had most of his success in the ''inferior'' Dutch league.It doesn't matter what league you are playing in,If defender cotton onto how you play,they will make life incredibly difficult for you.So its best to vary yourself. Luis Suarez does this to perfection.Defenders find him an absolute nightmare to play against.And rightly so,because he's competitive,he's strong,and he's got wonderful feet.
How many more matches has Hernandez played more than Suarez yet he is the unknown? You are just squeezing information in to your narrow view of the world, even if it doesn't fit.
