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Do you think Derry should have his red card rescinded?

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by CFC: Champs £launderx17, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    I did change it :), as you are not a very good Wuming
     
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  2. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    Why the volte face, General?

    before you were adamant.

    Also, is Ashley OK? We are all worried about him?

    Will he be available for your title run-in...

    After all, he is the biggest winner of pens in the Prem (why SAF signed him).

    And integral to any titles at Old T (as are pens on demand)
     
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  3. Star of David Bardsley

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    I think 99% of fans would agree it's a ridiculous decision. There's no way what Derry did hindered any attempt from Young to control the ball, score, stay on his feet etc. He saw an opportunity to throw himself over and took it, meagre contact or not.
     
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  4. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    he's 'Won' 7 pens in recent times; more than Suarez or barca boys
     
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  5. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    If Young didn't go down he probably would have kept the ball. It was never a red card, I don't even think it was a foul. This is all assuming the offside didn't get called.
     
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  6. magicbus

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    Absolutely surprised Young doesn`t go down at the pre match handshake tbh
     
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  7. SAMOC

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    Wish he had have, could have won 3-0
     
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  8. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    What I find gobsmacking is the fact that no other player in football does what Young does.

    It clearly works so why dont other players dive? Not one other player in football history has ever dived. Idiots.
     
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  9. Psycho2k

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    What a coincidence, I often thought the same thing about Gutierrez.
     
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  10. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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  11. Star of David Bardsley

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    I don't think anyone is saying that QPR or any other team have never had a player dive. It is Young getting the flak this week. Last week it was Carroll, a generation ago it was Franny Lee. Some people will use it as a stick to beat United with just as I'm sure many of you were presumably on the Liverpool board after Carroll at Newcastle. What isn't right is that there's no disincentive to dive at all, far too often it's the small teams on the receiving end and, from a purely QPR perspective, we've been all too regularly undone by terrible refereeing against United over the years.
     
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  12. The Billionth QPR Fan

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    So let me get this straight. You went on to youtube and searched "QPR Dives" and the only one you found was one in the 70's and you use it to insult us and brand us as divers!<doh>
     
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  13. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    No there were many......the one from the 70's may indicate the QPR have been doing it longer. After all, United have only owned the FA since 1992.
     
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  14. The Billionth QPR Fan

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    Prove it
     
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  15. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    See post 30
     
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  16. Swarbs

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    And yet iirc he's never in his career been booked for diving, despite winning the most penalties and being the most fouled player in the PL.

    Go figure <ok>
     
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  17. One of the lads

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    Derry's red should have been rescinded, ridiculous decision by the FA to uphold it.

    I hope QPR get relegated.
     
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  18. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Or perhaps QPR should stop crying and move on. They were never going to win the game and the rate things were going, the red card massively improved their team as up until then they seemed afraid of the ball.

    The rules state it was a clear red card offence, very very soft but getting fouled, however softly 16 yards from goal is always always going to end badly for the ****** defender who would do such a thing.

    Should it of even been allowed to happen though? No, but thats the fault of the lino. Something we have no control over.
     
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  19. Star of David Bardsley

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    1.) The rules may state denying a goalscoring opportunity is a red card offence but the only person who denied Young that opportunity was Young himself. What Derry did simply can't be considered stopping Young from carrying on and having a shot if he wished to do so. Sadly his first thought was to throw himself over and get an opponent, a good, old-fashioned pro, sent off, which is quite sad when you'd back him to score 1-on-1.

    2.) We probably wouldn't have won the game, though I doubt any QPR fan would say we would have done. What people are aggrieved about is that our, and I'm being somewhat arbitrary, 15% chance of a draw and 1% chance of a win was greatly reduced. Like many United fans who have commented you appear to have a crystal ball and know that we'd have comfortably lost but you'd have been thinking the same after 14 minutes of Blackburn at home too.
     
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  20. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    You improved after the red card. By quite a bit aswell. You seemed to lose the fear factor.

    If anything its at least debatable that you benefited from it, at that point you had nothing to lose where as at 0-0 and 11 men, you had much to lose.
     
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