Not Charlton related...well loosely connected though. Two other posters have voiced their opposition to the Olympics and I feel the same, just wondering what proportion of people on here are happy about them?
Yay - have tickets, and also think there will be a good, party atmosphere in London come the summer. There will be problems (already received letters about roads being closed etc), but it's a once in a lifetime thing. Not sure about the rest of you guys (And gals), but I eventually get Olympics fever when it's on the TV so think it's brilliant.
i work in greenwich and they've given my parking away to athletes/toffs. i'm now faced with 6 weeks of having to walk in 4.5 miles each day and then the same on the way home as trains are gonna be f'd. some wont even stop here. the olympics can do one. its cost us all money and is just an annoyance to people living here. didnt even get one ticket after applying to nearly all the football matches and loads of other events. i voted nay.
i have looked at that, but i think the other couple of hundred staff here are looking to do that too. plus the traffic's gonna be a 'mare.
The Olympics are the most important sporting event to happen to this Country ever. Forget the World Cups where our representatives are overpaid, obnoxious window licking chavs supported in large numbers by obnoxious window licking Chavs who have no idea what ambition and pride mean. It is an honour and a privilidge to have an Olympic and ParaOlympics on these shores. What ever it costs will be peanuts compared to the National disgrace our footballers and the knuckle dragging poundstretcher looters that support them, cost this country every two and four years in competition. The whole mantra of the Olympics is of equality and fairness. It really boils my piss when people complain that they might miss an episode of X factor because of the games.
quite right! - equal and fairness. where was the poll asking londoners/locals if they wanted to pay for it. you have a really valid point!
Typical mate... How much do the basketball, tennis players, Olympics footballers, British Cyclists earn from their sport? Lord Coe is a very rich man because of athletics The Olympics is costing Britain £10billion plus to stage and god knows how much it will cost to get rid of the 'white elephants' at a later date!
Er they did actually? Two different goverments supported the Olympic bid as did the local councillors of Greenwich and all the London Boroughs. If you are not old enough to vote then put your sweets away till you are. It seems that you only want to go and watch the football anyway which kind of makes my earlier point more valid.
...probably didnt understand the sarcasm intended. if i have to answer your first post seriously then i have to be honest.... no one gives a sh1t about equality and fairness. look at our government as an example... then if you want a further example : if he decides to fart on the the 100m final day, he'll get more front page space than Usain Bolt (or Jessica Ennis if she wins her sport). if your too narrow minded to understand someone elses perspective then go wave your club elsewhere.
What is your point? Seb Coe is creaming off the top? or offering this Country a chance to show its excellance in sport and particpate in an importand and vital world event. The white elephants you speak off have not happened. Until they do don't write them off as a loss. The Olympics are not a 10 billion pound loss. Until we know how much we can claw back through Tv rights and advertisement then they are not a loss. This country needs the games, its needs the stadia, it needs more than ever to show the youth of the world the importance of sport. Walk home you lazy gits. The Paraolympians would like the chance to walk home. Football has costs this country more in bad PR. I hardly think the European Champs was a great commercial for England. The Olympics might possibly give us a chance to kick start our tourist industry.
Ok so he wont win the hammer. So waht your saying is your frightened of terrorist. Bless. Sleep with your lights on then.
christ, your hard work. if anything bad happens on the same day as something good the attention will always go on the something bad. england got slatted for the rioting, but nothing was said abroad of things like the support muamba got from the footballing community here or the general public. that's all going off point though. despite your reasoning, my personal opinion is that the olympics will be a flop and i will not enjoy them. it will be good watching people come and compete at completely random sports 24/7 but i havent enjoyed knowing my money's gone to paying for them whilst colleagues are being made redundant (public sector) due to cutting in funds. olympics have always cost more than they make, its the way it is and will be with this one.
To be fair - the Olympics usually make profit: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-06/19/content_8302707.htm
People are quick to moan about the Olympics costing this country billions and the problems it will cause with regards to clogging up the city for a few weeks. But why don't these same people moan about the millions of illegal immigrants clogging up our cities and costing it equal billions in pathetic handouts? I would rather invite foreign athletes to come and run for our entertainment, than allow foreign pondlife to come over here so they can run from the authorities. In my humble opinion, folk should get their priorities straight.
peoples priorities are valued differently, one persons is not the same as the next. understand your point completely and not being argumentative for the sake of it, is it really the time to have an olympics? in recession, when most people are already disheartened with life/how we're run, we go and blow billions on it. not to mention the recent admission of lack of border control staff. is it really a good time to invite the rest of the world to come watch? we'll have more immigrants after these games. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17525402
Understand my point completely, eh? I have spent the last fifteen years working out the point of my argument. The trouble is that people don't focus on the real issues and allow all this pro-everyone-but-English dogma to be spoon fed to them on a daily basis. It would appear, SIG, that you are one of the Lethal Left's victims. The Olympics will offer some respite and welcome relief from the daily grind that life unfortunately is. It is costly, yes, but should at least offer some enjoyment to sports fans.
Well, as I started this particular frenzy, here's my own tuppenceworth. Unusually I won't reduce myself to opinionated banter as I can see both sides of this. I have very little interest in any of the Olympic sports - golf and football are not Olympic sports. They are johnny come latelys and do not need Olympic medals to add to their established measures of success. I used to like athletics until drugs got in the way and, like cycling, I cannot get the spectre of cheating out of my head - grossly unfair to the 90 odd per cent of clean athletes I'll grant you. I therefore feel very little need to watch. The fact that it is on my doorstep doesn't alter that fact. Can we afford it? I don't know but I doubt it. I object to paying for it through my taxes and I am very sorry for all those people whose lives will be temporarily or permanently blighted by the games and their infrastructure. In fairness, we signed up just before the world economy went tits up. I'd like to think that if we'd had the benefit of a couple of years more hindsight we would have politely declined the opportunity to bid. But we've done it now so that's spilt milk to some extent. I don't buy the we need the stadia lark either I'm afraid. Most of the structures are temporary - I hope to god that the monstrosity off HaHa road is temporary! And the main stadium is a prefab built on the cheap. I know this cos I've discussed it with the project manager. I doubt it will last and seems to be fit only for athletics which on a normal day attracts crowds of diddly squat. I hope West Ham get it. It will give me another reason to hate them. I had dinner with Dame Kelly Holmes a couple of weeks ago (name dropping barsteward - she was guest speaker at my company's annual conference). I've seen her gongs. Very impressive as is she. She spoke of the inspiration that the Olympics has brought to those who will compete. And she is inspirational to listen to. But these are all minority sports, elevated for a fortnight to the most important pedestal in the world. Sure there will be heroes like Dame kel and Redgrave and Thompson and Alan wells. But I just can't see that it worth all the disruption to our lives and the cost just for another couple of heros. Now to fairness and equality. I didn't try to get tickets despite the fact that I can just about see the stadium from my third floor bedroom window. I know almost no-one who got anything remotely like what they asked for. I know one guy in my golf club who has a ticket for the 100 metres final. He applied for £27000 worth of tickets. He got the 100 metres and some volley ball. Can you honestly tell me that anything about that scenario is fair or transparent!!!! As for the economic benefits - cant give an opinion as I'm not an economist. Sure there will be some short term gain during the games but I can't help feeling that we will be left with an expensive and irrelevant legacy. We are good at organising things but so were Atlanta, Athens and Sydney and they are all still paying for white elephants. I've been to t(what's left of) the Olympic stadium in Atlanta and it is a very sad experience. I'm not egotistical enough on behalf of my country to think that we will get this right where others have failed. I'm doing this on an iPhone and I suspect I have not structured my arguments very well. But my personal instinct is that this is all an expensive, Ill-timed irrelevance that will just mask everyone's genuine problems for a few weeks and hang the consequences. But then again I might be totally wrong. I dare say I'll be a sheep and keep up with the events - it will probably be very difficult not to! But I'll tell you something - I'll be playing a lot of golf when the big events are on the telly!
The Olympics ironically enough may in fact lead to a large emmigration of foreigners from these shores. Apparaently due to a lack of skills, British workers were outnumbered 3 to 1 during the games and many of the workers from foreign shores have gone or going home. I am all for kicking out non essential and sponging foriegners but I can't see many of them being three day eventers can you? Th whole point is so many of you have fallen for the hysteria of the negatives, the positives are there in abundance and only the lazy, the hysterics, and the unpatriotic want to sit and home and rather watch Trisha.
