Our loss at home to Norwich, at this critical stage of the season proves that Harry lacks what it takes to take us to the next level. In fact, we are not even at the next level - because of Harry. He wants the England job. Why the hell have we be landed with this idiot? I'm Spurs through and through, not England, I really do not care for his excuses, or those who would be Harry apologists. He has let us down, and for that, I will never forgive him.
who would you want and think we can get? p.s i agree about Harry i used to say on the old606 that Harry cant take us onto another level...infact i still believe he thinks he is doing us a favour...and havent got over when he called Spurs fans stupid and that they should be grateful for challenging 4th..regardess of wether they get it or not.
I concur with both statements. Squad rotation was key last season as it is this season and he hasnt learnt.
HIAG, you'll forgive him if we finish 4th and win the FA Cup (provided, of course, that Chelsea does NOT win the Champions League). After he leaves (next month, unless the FA has seen enough to turn elsewhere), D_m and I are warming to the idea of Slaven Bilic being in charge, next season. He's a multi-lingual man of many talents - and he can coach a bit, too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RYg8Dy3xk4 (take a look at the rhythm guitarist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tmtF7NHOxY (talking about his six years as Croatia's Senior Coach).
I'm fed up with him too. I hate how he constantly talks to the media, about things which should stay internal ie modric's new contract,and agree he does seem to think he is doing us a favour, 2pts from 8 games blah blah blah. everyone knows that wasn't our real form. This was a team that Juande had made look very promising, and beat the goons 5-1 and chelsea in the cc, so obviously it was a confidence thing. This squad is good enough for a top 6-7 finish easy, and top 4 with some acute management. Harry does not have that or the same resources as Mankini, SAF, Wenger or the experience that Chelsea have in their ranks. I would love us to either take a proper manager like a Lippi, Cappello, Mourinho etc (i know all are unklikey) or a punt on Brendan Rodgers. I think at the very least we will play as a team/unit under him, we will play good football and he is (at the moment) far better at setting his team up.
I think this is all getting a bit hysterical. Let's not forget where we were when Harry came in! There seem to be quite a few users on here with his name in their handle. He may not be a great tactician, and i do wish he'd realise that, and seek help with that side of things. He is, however, undoubtedly one of the best man managers in the game. There are more than one or two players who are only still at the club because Harry is there. IMO, all this England talk, seems to have taken his focus away from Spurs. The players sense that he's probably going, and all the momentum that we had has been lost. If he is going, he should just go, now. If he's not, he should come out now, and say so. I do blame him for creating our current poor form, but i won't forget what he's done for this club.
i'm warming to Bilic,he talk's sense can coach a bit,and the added bonus,we might keep Modric with him as manager
HIAG you plastic loser, the spouting of Arry's greatness and now this. You lot didn't make it to 4th last season so how come it is not the head calling is afoot? Blame your players! too easy to blame the coach.
bit far lads. we sound like the goons 3 months ago when they were complaining about the "board" and how wenger lost the plot. - let's not stoop that low, please. things aren't going well, but jesus christ, this is a bit abrupt and over the top. harry's done a great job, no one should forget that. we were in dire straits. he's got his weaknesses, which we've all addressed in recent weeks, and perhaps it's time for him to move on to england and us to get a "next level" replacement. - but have some respect.
Like he does for us? Labelling Fans idiots? If he had any respect he would acknowledge he is leaving and do it already, OR say is isn't and crack on.
Losing Harry will hit us hard, regardless of recent form he's been amazing for us. Admittedly some of his decisions lately have annoyed me - keeping Ade and Rafa on the bench yesterday and not bringing Lennon on until the 65th minute vs Sunderland when we clearly needed a bit of pace and some of his interviews have p*ssed me off like the one yesterday about 4-4-2 leaves us open (which it does massively if we don't have Parker!) - if that's the case why play it? I still want Redknapp to remain, he's been key to our rise and without him we'd have likely been settling for a mid-table position/ seeing Europa League position as a successful season.
The players have a lot too answer for too, the likes of Walker, King, Benny, Adebayor, Defoe, Saha have all been close to useless at times during this bad run but ultimately we have been a little unfortunate not to get results when we've played well which exaggerates the poor run into a bit of a catastrophe. If we'd beat Stoke, Chelsea and at least drew against Everton we'd be sitting a lot prettier, unfortunately none of that happened. 'Arry has made some mistakes but if you'd told us at the start of the season that we'd be 4th with 5 games to go and have an FA Cup Semi at the weekend you'd be delighted. 'Arry doesn't deserve all the credit for that just as he doesn't deserve all the blame now. Hopefully now we can turn around this bad form so we don't throw our season away. COYS
I still want Redknapp to remain, he's been key to our rise and without him we'd have likely been settling for a mid-table position/ seeing Europa League position as a successful season -------- Would we? did Levy not sack Jol because he wanted champions league football? Harry has done well. I have alot of appreciation for what he has brought to the team. But I don't think he can go any further, and flirting with another job is not on. There is a massively talented squad at his disposal, and he is not making the most of it. Also, he had the basis of a good team before he came, though he has improved alot of players ie bae and bale, but king, lennon, modders, thud, defoe, walker were already ours and i believe VDV and Sandro were out of his hands? so his first team players that he has signed are friedel, parker, kaboul, ade (loan) and saha. I think another manager could do more with this squad
The players have been poor because of a mixture of poor tactics, weak team selection and a lack of rotation though, in my opinion. Walker and Assou-Ekotto in particular seem to have played every game for months. We've allowed our squad to become depleted and now we have a lack of suitable options when we need them. Should Redknapp take all of the blame for that? Probably not, but he's admitted that a number of the choices were his own, like letting Pienaar and Corluka go. He's alienated various players by not giving them a look in and he's run others into the ground, exactly as he did last season. His failure to recognise this was evident in the last campaign and it's crystal clear now. Redknapp's done a very good job for us, overall. It's astounding that he doesn't seem to even realise his mistakes though, let alone address them.
I'm a bit fed up of the "remember where we were when Redknapp came in" nonsense. Let's be honest lads (and girls if there are any) but we were never really bottom of the league material when Ramos was sacked anyway. We were never going to be relegated. Anyway, I concur with HIAG, I am so pissed off with losing that excellent ground we made on Chelsea, Arsenal and the other chasers. The fact that we are now looking to win all 5 games left to ensure fourth is shocking managerial nous. I am not going to believe that Harry's head has been turned due to the England job as he is meant to be a professional manager with over 25 years experience. He will be here until the end of the season, Levy won't sack him and after that? I think we will go in for someone like Moyes. Desperate times for us in the league.
Sorry Baz, but I can't say that I agree about the threat of relegation. We were in deep **** and had hard games coming up. Even with the good form that we displayed, it took us ages to get away from the relegation zone. We shouldn't have been in that position, but Redknapp did a good job of turning things around and sorting out confidence issues in the squad.
Levy pretty much wanted CL football the moment he took over, didn't mean we were going to get it, nor did it mean the fans automatically expected it either. Under Jol, Europa was seen as a success, getting back into Europe - even if it were the 2nd tier - was an amazing feeling for us and repeating the feat again the year after left the same feeling, his sacking was down to us losing the majority of our games at the start of the season (the same reason Ramos was sacked too). Harry came in and turned ou fortunes around, from "2 points from 8 games" to 4th place within 18 months. Granted a lot of the players in our current first team were what he inherited, but under Harry, Lennon regained his form (albeit in patches) Benny and Bale (like you said) have become top drawer under him, Modric also improved greatly under him as Harry gave him more of a free role, Thud and Ledley have always been consistent. His signings also got us to where we are both past and current ones. When Palacios came at the time, our midfiled became fantastic and up until the horrendous death of his brother, he was a cemented first team player, Crouch got us the goal that took us to the Champions League and bar the Madrid game, was brilliant to have in Europe. The current crop - Parker, Ade, Kaboul and Friedel have all been brilliant for us and Saha hasn't been a bad addition either, Gallas too has been great to have around. Whether Rafa and Sandro were his signings or not, he's utilised them - especially Rafa - to great effect. I seriously can't think of anyone we could attract that's better than Harry at this current time.
A bit of perspective is needed I think. Lurching from one extreme to another on the basis of results is a recipe for delusion and depression. Yesterday Norwich put in an old fashioned English performance and deservedly beat our team of skilled ball players. This is how English teams used to beat foreign teams and it;s how they dominated Europe in the 70's. Parker has made the difference this season and he was missed yesterday. We have always struggled with this squad when being harried and hurried by a determined English performance. Parker and King have enabled us to deal with it effectively. Yesterday Parker was absent and let's face it so was King, his last three performances are the worst that I have seen from him, it looks, I fear, like the beginning of the end for him. In the PL with the modern game & rules you need both the skill AND the grit. We are and have been light on grit. That's the difference between us and Man U and why once again they will win this league.
