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Thoughts on the Man City game

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by ajameshowe, Apr 8, 2012.

  1. Actually Balotelli would be howling mad murdoch
    Mancini is Hannibal
    Yayo Toure is BA Baracus
    Face would be Tevez <laugh>

    And the girl would be Nasri.
     
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  2. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Hahaha, funny i think Murdoch quite suits Balotelli. Tevez as face lol
     
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    1.Solid?Not exactly but we look better. Still going to be troubled by the larger centreforwards. Sagna has been absolutely fantastic since he came back though. BEST RIGHTBACK IN THE LEAGUE!!
    2.Midfiled was excellent. Industrious and mobile.(perhaps less skillful than previous midfields but we have a good balance)
    3.RVP still not back to his best.
    4.I thought benny played well. We benefitted from his constant running.
    5.Shame about Gibbs he was playing well. Still Santos has alot of ability
    6.He's great going forward - I think he'll be good for us. Will chip in with goals.
    7.true, although i would like to see RVP and Theo do it more.
    8.Because he has all the ingredients to be top class. Just lacking confidence. Im sure all the abuse he gets from some of our plastic fans only make things worse. Ramsey will come good.(and is most likley playing very well in training - hence Wenger's faith in him.
     
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    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    I'm just waiting for you all to turn on Wilshere next year as well if he doesn't come back and immediately play like Messi.
     
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  5. cjuliennech1

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    People say that ramsey is coming back from an injury and needs time etc etc but look at rosicky, he has had constant injuries for longer periods than ramsey and he has had his best spell at the club i still think we need to buy another attacking midfielder but i don't think ramsey will really get a look in next season if rosicky keeps up his form and stays injury free.
     
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  6. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    I think that is a fair statement. I'm not saying Ramsey is going to come good next year, but he might. I'm just saying that writing the chap off at 21 is a little harsh, given that he lost development time to injury.
     
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  7. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    I have one name, Ben Arfa, he came back from a terrible injury and is one of the best midfielders in the league at present. For Ramsey it is more mental than anything. He is quality and i would persevere with him. He is class and i hope for him to come back showing his true quality, as Rosicky has....
     
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  8. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    Jayram just speaks as he finds - we don't always agree- but this IS the Arsenal forum - you may leave if you don't like it.
    I view ManC as a brothel - full of whores looking for the best paid trick. A long distance from the superb sides of the past.
     
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  9. marbella blue

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    You must mean the superb sides who didn't threaten you or the scum!
     
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  10. Bergkamp a Dutch master

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    No - I am old enough to remember the Mercer /Allison days. We were poor then.
    That lot beat Utd and POOL.
     
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    Silly little boy, it's been all about money since 1991, before you were born, ask £enger!
     
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  12. Drudeboy

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    rosicky was terrible for a few years after his injury problems. its only this season, a few years after his big injury in 07/08 (I think) that he's played well. give ramsey time, he'll come good.
     
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  13. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Don't forget, there were also some who were also calling for RVP to be sold not so long ago.
     
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  14. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Some people just need a scapegoat. It used to be Eboue not so long ago, then Denilson and Bendtner. It's petty really, blaming one player everytime something goes wrong. The way some people were talking about Ramsey after the QPR game was shameful. I've got no respect for people who constantly slag off our own players.
     
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  15. Drudeboy

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    its not like it was important in the end. no one went on at rvp when he missed that open goal vs. Milan. and vermaelen should be slagged off, as his chance was a lot easier and when it was 0-0.
     
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  16. EmirAleks

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    The difference between Rosicky and Ramsey is that Rosicky had had proved his class before he was injured. He was one of the most exiting young midfielders in Europe when he arrived to Arsenal. Recently Tomas just returned to his form. Ramsey, on the other hand is still just a prospect, with some potential, but he has not proved anything as yet. All what he has at the moment is 3-4 really good games under his belt, that is all. Not too much. People say about all the ingredients of a great player. But I still have my doubts. There are doubts about his position, he does not have a clear role in Arsenal, he has regressed this calendar year dramatically, and there doubt about his mental toughness and leadership qualities ( all those qualities that Wilshere has in abundance). My prediction is he will turn into a useful squad player, I can't see him as a starter with Wilshere back and OXO progressing rapidly. Both guys are mentally tougher and technically better. Even more so if we sign McVilla. Even Diaby will give him a competition for a starting place, and this says it all.
     
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  17. PINKIE

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    Ramsey has done okay this season. He filled in and worked his socks off in the midfield in the absence of Wilshere, Diaby, Fabregas and Nasri. I think people forget that we were FOUR midfielders down on last season and Ramsey was asked to cover their absence. He was also asked to try and provide the link in midfield between lots of new players coming into the team who had never played together before. Some people might not be aware, but his pass completion rate is actually better than Fabregas' was last season, so the accusations that he always gives the ball away are not true.

    Whether or not he's an immediate starter when Wilshere comes back is besides the point, he's a decent player who deserves his place in the first team. He's 21 and still developing - yet already he's captain of his national team and a regular in a Top 4 premier league team. I think he deserves a bit more credit from some fans, instead of the constant bitching and singling out of one player that some fans seem to revel in.
     
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  18. lazarus20000

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    You are right, far too much bitching going on about players especially when they are not performing brilliantly all the time. Ramsey is a top quality player and just needs time to regain his form and move forward. There are some players that really should move on eg Squishy, but some players should just be given time.

    Im still sad about Eboue going and still think it was wrong for him to go. He was never a bad player but after his injury, Wenger putting him on as a right winger and fans constantly on his back, finally made him move on. A big shame as he would have saved us this season when Sagna went injured for a long while!
     
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  19. PeterRICK

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    My thoughts...

    I was unusually confident before kick off which is very unlike me as I'm a pessimist by nature. So confident was I that I whacked five english pounds on us to win. Crazy money I know.

    Defensively I thought we were sound. Let's not delude ourselves, City have the players that mean they will create chances and we kept that to an impressive minimum. It's a blow that Koscielny is now out as he's been one of our most consistent players this season but I'm not devastated at Djourou playing in his place. As a CB I have far, far more faith in him than I do when he's at RB. I'm also sad at the injury to Gibbs (though not suprised). We were finally creating a back 5 used to playing together as a unit and yet again it's disrupted.

    Midfield. Oh I do like the trio of Song, Arteta and Rosicky. As someone said earlier it's probably not our most skillful midfield ever but they complement each other brilliantly. Much of that flexibility I attribute to Arteta and the way he works around his team mates. Whatever the reason though I like it and it definitely works well.

    I was also pleased to see Benny get his chance on the wing. I can only assume Gervinho is being dropped because of a combination of no form and tiredness as otherwise I'd rather he played there but he didn't do himself any disservice. Purely out of interest would anyone be interested in making a move for him? He's a really useful utility player imo but I think if we're getting in someone like Podolski he'd not get the games.

    Delighted (obviously) that we got the win. We certainly deserved it and, with the exception of 3/4 city players, I was surprised how lackluster they were. The real positive for me was how we kept grinding away at them over and over without giving up. Previously we'd have got frustrated and consequently lost our shape and drive but not now. Losing Fabregas/Nasri was a horrible blow to us but in getting the likes of Arteta and the reborn Rosicky (feels like a new signing) we're getting a new level of maturity to the side that I feel we've not seen since big Pat and co were there. I'm in no way suggesting we're as good as we were back then but we're getting the correct mentality back.

    The real test now will be if we can keep our concentration for the Wolves game. Too many times before we've raised ourselves for the big games and switched off for the 'easier' matches. Wolves will presumably be fighting for pride now if nothing else and you can't afford to take any Premier League side lightly.

    Too surmise - Mahoooosive plus points from the weekend (including other results!), tempered by the annoying yellow for Kos and the injury to Kieran.

    Oh, and I love how Balotelli is now apparently the sole reason why Citeh are floundering! Not because the squad is made up of 95% mercenaries with no team ethic. No, it's because of one player who's disrupted everything... got to love the English media.
     
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  20. PINKIE

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    Eboue was the perfect squad player for us. Always ready to play wherever he was asked to and a very competent 2nd choice RB. The way he was treated by some fans was despicable, the time he was booed off the pitch was a shameful moment our support, I was utterly disgusted with it. He still came back and showed his character though and put in some great performances, but you have to wonder if it was at that moment that he fell out of love with Arsenal.

    Like I said, I've got no respect for fans who constantly slag off our own players. Okay, calling it when they have a bad game is fair enough, we all do. Whilst some might not agree with me, I think players who have a poor run of form should be given more support to help lift them, I don't see what people think they will achieve by constantly slating them. But it's the petty, scapegoating stuff that happens when one player gets singled out time and time again that really pisses me off, even when they've done nothing wrong, e.g Ramsey against QPR. It's like the playground cowards who all gang up on one kid to bully him.
     
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