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O/t .please stand up and be counted.

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by billofengland, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. QWOP

    QWOP Well-Known Member

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    <ok> Enjoy you beer marra!
     
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  2. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    Up to me what I post, Up to mods to delete if its offside, read my preface { thats te bit before the article } also not right or left wing. Just an ageing workman.
     
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  3. concrete tony

    concrete tony Well-Known Member

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    Although I disagree with Bill's original post I have no problem with him posting it. I know it's a football forum but I like some of the off topic stuff. If it doesn't interest me I don't read. I'm sure Bill is also big enough to take the varied replies, it being a forum you have the right to reply so I don't see the problem.
     
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  4. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    Spot on Tony, but it has been viewed over 700 times, and may do some good, not sure but worth a go. A wider audience can have a big impact. And I also like the OT subjects, As during the closed season we sometimes only have OT threads, for obvious reasons. Last summer Syd and I were publishing old postcards of Sunderland History, busses, trams etc. passed the dead days fine.
     
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  5. BalesBalls

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    The unions thought they could boss the country, but Maggie squashed them just like the fcukin Argies, I dont want Arthur Scargill to die, I want him to stay around a little longer so I can laugh at him for longer
     
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  6. Billy Death

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    Hang around bud I can laugh at you too.

    Point me to where I ever mentioned unions ya daft ****.
     
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  7. Billy Death

    Billy Death Guest

    And by the way you horrible ****, Twatcher didn't crush the Argies as you call them.

    The forces did.

    ****er.
     
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  8. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    But she did crush the unions mate.................
     
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  9. Billy Death

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    Aye, I know that but it wernt me that brought it up & Gonzo is having a go at me fo it so **** him.
     
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  10. froggy1973

    froggy1973 Well-Known Member

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    ****ed the Unions and our heavy industries ****ing Cameron etal are the Direct descendants of Thatcher.
     
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  11. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    Thatcher destroyed British industry, and the Unions lost power along with it...She then thought it was fine for people to work, without Union backing, for up to 84 hours a week for under £1 pound an hour! Her idea of going back to Victorian values eh..
     
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  12. froggy1973

    froggy1973 Well-Known Member

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    Bill I'm 43 so opinions all my own never been in any of the services but have the utmost respect for those who are/ where still think you guys where shafted by Thatcher who used the Falklands for her own ends.
     
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  13. FTM Dave

    FTM Dave Well-Known Member

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    The unions, imperfect though they are, are bothered about protecting the pay, jobs and conditions of their members.

    So instead of working people having jobs, decent conditions and decent pay, you're pleased that Thatcher attacked those rights and the super rich got even richer.

    Unless you're mega rich yourself, it's beyond me how anyone could admire Thatcher.
     
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  14. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    Froggy, you would have to have been part of it to understand, And I cant explain it to you, other than if you read Falkland veterans own statements `they would do it all over again`,,,,Maggie actually gave a **** about our armed forces, which succesive governments did not, so much so that they have slashed budgets and got policys wrong, thus endangering our troops,,,,BIG TIME.

    The gyst of my thread is about the raw deal pensioners are having/facing. A quality of life all retired folk should have. think the thread has gone sideways a bit.
     
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  15. froggy1973

    froggy1973 Well-Known Member

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    Bill don'tpretend to understand what you went through, and back to your Thread I do agree with you that pensioners are getting a rough time of it but you can't blame immigrants blame the ****ing Tory government.
     
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  16. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    Not blaming immigrants, successive governments done bugger all for our pensioners, of which you will be someday, just showing the anomallys. people who paid in get nowt, people who didnt put in get the jackpot, would realy just like a level playing field for all. human rights should be for all, or none at all.
     
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    The unions, imperfect though they are, are bothered about protecting the pay, jobs and conditions of thier members, 2012 maybe, the 70s are you winding me up they were out to bankrupt the country, **** knows where we would of been today if they had won.
     
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    Ever bar/rsnst around where I live has eastern europeans workin in them, make the lazy English Sh*te do the jobs and so cutback on the dole money paid out, and it might up the pensioners pay
     
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  19. QWOP

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    I would like to defend bill here. He is not being racist/right wing himself. He is merely highlighting an issue regarding the treatment of pensioners, of which he nearly is one, hence the cutting posts. It is a valid point that he has, and while it maybe could have been expressed better (it was a cut and paste job really), it does not detract from its validity.
     
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  20. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    It was a cut and paste job, but I intended [hopefully] to get people to realise, folks like me and older folks do matter, there are by elections coming up. I wont influence who does what. just wanted an awareness from the biggest audience I could get, And strange though it may seem, people do reach retirement age. "HOPE I DIE BEFORE I GET OLD" The Who, two are still left, the writer and the singer, and both pensioners if Im not mistaken.

    Rest assured we all will die, but its the quality of life in your latter years which should be special. Like I said stand up.
     
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