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No more British Managers and Players

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Home front, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    Rafa Brnitez knows what it takes in the premiership,he is likely to learn from his mistakes during his first tenure.My vote is for him.<ok>
     
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  2. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    No more British Managers and Players

    I would suggest you have said most of this from the heart and not from the head as 'king Kenny' has made a balls up of the PL campaign this season and is little else than a knee jerk reaction to release your frustration.

    Paul Lambert and Brendan Rodgers are two exceptionally talented young managers and both are probably destined for bigger clubs - If Harry takes up the England role then BR is likely to go to Spurs. So to say they are all mid table managers is nonsense. Lambert, who knows but if he continues the way he has so far it wont be too long before he takes a job with a bigger club.
    Next season will see Nigel Adkins coming in to the PL and perhaps, if Cardiff can come up, Malky MacKay - these two also have a very promising future ahead of them.

    As for British players not being any good - talk about your players perhaps but there are lots of good British players about but the likes of Liverpool will not sign them or take a chance on them. You need to be seen to spend big to compete, or that seems to be the philosophy at present. Norwich have 3 or 4 very, very good youngsters that would more than hold their own at most PL teams. Hopefully you will see this soon when 'Pool' visit Carrow Road.
    (Keep an eye on these guys in particular - Howson, Ryan Bennett, Pilkington, if he plays & Elliott Bennett) Swansea also have some very talented youngsters who would also do a job for just about any other team in the PL.

    I will agree Kenny is out of his depth though.
     
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  3. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    I think Kenny has struggled with pressure being on him.

    When he was just care taker he did fantastic. But when he signed his contract at the end of the season results slid. This season we have had good times and bad times. But when the pressures been on we have often struggled.


    They said on TV yesterday that the thing thats helping Di Matteo get results at Chelsea is that the pressure is completely off him. Steve Kean was better for Blackburn before he got a perminant contract (though he has done very well to save his reputation).
     
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  4. Zingy

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    I agree that Rogers and Lambert are good managers, but I would rather see them flourish at their current clubs for a few more seasons before they moved onto bigger things. Would be a shame for Swansea and Norwich if they were to leave. <ok>
     
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  5. Lucaaas

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    Whats being said about Lambert & Rodgers is what was being said about Coyle & Hodgson before.

    For Grant Holt see Andy Carroll and for Pilkington see Matt Jarvis or Stewart Downing.

    We could do without signing more crap like Grant Holt or Brendan Rodgers.
     
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  6. Home front

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    Spot on lucaaas
     
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    You're right lets never have any more British staff or players as they are all going to flop. Might as well cut Raheem Sterling and Martin Kelly loose. Rooney, Wilshere etc are barely footballers. Looking back on it Dalglish, Rush and Fowler weren't actually that good really.

    I get the Pilkington and Holt comment but just how do you judge a manager? Can we only look to managers who have won the Champions league in their first job in charge?
     
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  8. Lucaaas

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    I didn't say I didn't want any British players. Where did I say that? I was specifically talking about these midtable managers who are being touted as the next big thing. You can change Lambert's name to Martin Jol if you like.

    How many managers have come from midtable clubs to win the title? None. There's only Harry Redknapp who's done reasonably well at Spurs and even he's looking like he's bottled over a massive lead from the 5th placed team to dropping below them (or even dropping to 6th) by the end of the season.

    I'd rather go with a proven manager from the continent myself who's actually won something and competed in European football before.
     
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  9. Noblelox

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    ^^ This<ok>
     
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  10. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    I can understand that up to a point but why do you believe a manager a manager from, for arguments sake Spain (could be just about any European country) would do the business. I would presume you would be looking at the manager from either Barcelona or Real Madrid as these are the only two managers that succeed in their domestic league. Italy and Germany are not really different, only a very small number teams can and do win their respective leagues.

    My counter argument being, because they have been the manager of the most successful club in their league (given bucket loads of cash and not much opposition) why do you think they could come to Liverpool and make them return to the golden years? I don't think they would. Jose Mourinho was a one off in my opinion.

    Liverpool's golden era was created by the great Shankly and subsequent managers came from within until the dreaded Souness appointment. All the time keeping a solid team and cherry picking young talent from either division 1 or 2 as it was then. What you need to do is get a manager than can spend money wisely, not just throw it about, and re-build. Not for next season or even the season after that but for a few years down the line. I am sure most of you are probably not patient enough to allow that to happen as you have demanded success every season because your history makes you want the good times to return.
     
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  11. Bozz

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    I wouldn't mind Lambert as manager, as much as I dislike what he did to Colchester United.
     
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  12. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    What did he do?

    EDIT: Just googled it.

    It was harsh but understandable.

    Lambert's career stats are very impressive.
     
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