Refs can make the most enormous balls ups against us and nothing ever happens about it. It's ludicrous.
The other bad omen is the team we're playing away also wears red n white stripes! ....we're doomed I tell ye...we're doomed!
What Foy did to us was a disgrace. Funnily enough he screwed up the Hammers the other day (according to some of them) and one (typical) deluded Hammer reckoned he must be a spurs fan. Yeah right.
that is because we dont make half as much noise over a ref balls up than the likes of United do...even the Nani goal at OT...yeah we protested..then Rio stuck his big orc face in it and we all walked off to take the centre....the refs have it easy against us and that is to our detriment..id like us to hound the ref more..to complain..every now and again decide to take retribtuion ourselves by kicking the odd player in the air etc..but im afraid i find us as white as our shirts.
We might have to just accept Aaron Lennon got his hamstrings from the same shop as Michael Owen. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17570933
The news post I saw from Tottenham's fb page said we had no fresh injury concerns after Swansea. I trust this a bit more than the BBC - http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/spurs/News/team-news-sunderland-060412.page?
Aaron has problems with his hamstrings, but I think he'll be fit to play. I doubt that he will start the game though, to me it makes more sense to play Livermore, but as ever tough calls for Harry to make.
Tough calls for Harry indeed. But when you're earning £3m plus per year, that's what he is paid to do and to get right.
So if we hound the refs like ManU what's next? Get up to all the other tricks that other teams do... you know stuff we complain about but can rightly feel superior to them because we don't do the same... so before long we are like all the other teams and I might then ask... what's the difference? Doesn't it matter that Spurs are different... are better?
I do feel that we need to do something though, Vimhawk. If other managers feel the need to bemoan big decisions going their way and get away with it, whilst Redknapp tends to suffer in silence, then we increase the likelyhood of more decisions going against us. Even if it's just someone in our camp making a point of the other clubs putting pressure on officials, we need to try and lessen the impact of these tactics. Otherwise we end up with Foy again...
Just a thought PNP but in a case like this (with Foy) and such a travesty of a refereeing performance, is there not more chance of a reversal today. If he is not corrupt - and I don't think that this is actually being seriously considered - then he must realise what a complete **** he made of himself and there must be a tendency for him to side with us in any debatable decisions. Certainly hoping that is the case today. I certainly don't want to be seen as a club that hounds officials on the pitch and certainly not one that then castigates them publicly in the Press, post-match. Equally, you are right that we shouldn't just sit and take it. The idea of a nominated club official raising these issues with the Authorities seems like a good way forward - but better still if this was a league arrangement: which not only limits the persons making comment but would also highlight the more frivolous complainers. The trouble is that the Media (and especially Sky) own PL football and they thrive on the controversy. Pushing this behind closed doors is hardly in their interest and so unlikely to happen.......
There's also the possibility that he might be so desperate to avoid unintentionally making decisions our way to make up for the Stoke game that he goes the other way entirely, Relayer! Just thinking about the officials in the modern game and the pace of the sport and I wonder if it might be an idea to switch the ref and 4th official at half-time? It's clearly a struggle for some of them to keep up for 90 minutes and it's quite understandable too, so why not give them a break? I'm sure that they could manage to fill each other in on how close each player is to going in the book, but there's a risk of inconsistency, unfortunately. Managers shouldn't be allowed to treat the 4th official as a verbal punching bag for 90 minutes, either.
And an official who has been harangued on the touch line for 45 mins is hardly likely to be very amenable to that managers team when he gets out on the pitch for the second half...... Yes, I see the logic....
Thought the Reading/Leeds games yesterday summed up the situation quite well. McDermott could have lost 2 or 3 players to serious injuries and the ref (whenever I saw him) appeared to be laughing his way through the game with Leeds committing a variety of assaults and general spoiling tactics. He did not shout and scream at the 4th official and behaved with dignity throughout. Warnock on the other hand was in the officials ear all the time - its a miracle he actually saw any of the game! Justice prevailed in the end, but for much of the game it looked like the Beast would prevail.....
Yep I thought the Reading ref was poor, let way too much go, and one of the Reading players did go off injured following a couple of 'Leeds tackles'. Leeds should have been down to 9 and conceded a penalty, though as you say thankfully they lost in the end.
Not long to go to the match now, am very nervous and excited already. The weather looks good (compared to what it can be 'oop Sunderland'), dry, cloudy, light wind, 6 degrees and rising. Hopefully the pitch should be in good condition too.
