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Adam and Nick on Sports Talk tonight

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by juleskaren, Apr 5, 2012.

  1. originallambrettaman

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    Close.
     
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  2. Cortez91

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    It will be

    Fryatt - Stay
    Cairney - Could go
    McLean - Will go

    As for Cairney - he's just incredibly lazy. Loads of potential, but rather not do anything with it.
     
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  3. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    well the obvious thing for me is if we're not getting a transfer kitty then we need to sell.

    Now everyone will have their different opinions about who we should keep or sell but realistically it's all about how much we can get for each player and how much that frees up to buy someone. Is it worth selling one player for £1million to get 2 for 500k?

    ALl of this is completely out of our hands so we just have to trust everyone involved at the club not to recreate a Turner fiasco.

    The way I see it every single one of our players is for sale depending on the price. I wanna keep manonne,chester,hobbs,dudgeon,koren,king,mckenna,rosenior. But if we got £4million for chester it would be seriously worth considering. that could get us two very decent strikers.

    I know it's not that simple, we'll have to deal with some buyers. But in theory we could get rid of fryatt,mclean,stewart,simpson... get probably £3/4 million for the lot. and replace.

    I just wonder whether we should have taken the £4million from leicester for stewart.
    and we should have definitely accepted any offer from Everton for Cairney. The guy will be a flop 100% sure. I don't have anything against him personally but he's always going to be a "had so much potential" kind of player.
    One thing is for sure is we need to be promised that the money gained by selling should go straight into buying.
     
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  4. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    Mclean goes, fryatt goes, cairney goes

    ps: what's the situation with Ghilas. It's kind of sickening that he's making a name for himself in Ligue 2 and playing for more than one club and yet we're paying for most (or all?) of that! Can't they bloody buy him. I guess Reims could never afford even close to what we're paying him but then what is he going to do? He will run out his contract and realise he will never get that kind of money again. I guess we really got shafted on that. I'd rather he was at our club to be honest than get loaned out. He's taking a lot from us and not giving anything back.
     
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    if we've got players ringing up asking to join we might not need to spend much. rosenior came that way.
     
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  6. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    I like how that sounds at first, not sure why though, what is attracting them here? but weary that it's a bit of a PR thing. or am I just being cynical OLM?
    I'd like to think that we are a team that has great potential for next season with the good defending. Also maybe the man u lads have spread the word and say it's pretty good place to be.
     
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  7. kccircle

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    Not sure Leicester went even half way to that suggested £4m for Stewart.

    Fryatt should stay. He is worth 10-15 goals a season and you never know but Barmby might change his strategy if he has the right players.

    Despite McKenna being player of the season (for me) he works as he has Evans as the legs alongside him. Next season I'd like to see Evans step up and try to oust Mckenna from the team by simply doing the job of both of them. That would free up an opportunity for either another creative midfielder or another attacker.

    Evans has everything in his locker baring experience. He is one who has hit a wall though and needs next season to push on
     
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  8. BigotAlertAnalRimMan

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    I would keep Fryatt don't get me wrong. I just think he might be one of the more valuable assets we have for sale.
    What's the consensus on Stewart. Everyone agrees that he's having a down time right now but as we were very "not for sale" a few months back, have things changed now?
     
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  9. RicardoHCAFC

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    My count was we needed 10 contracts signing for next season (allowing for out of contract and loans ending). Dawson's new contract is 1 so we're down to 9. If Barmby is saying he wants 4 or 5 and to keep the players he's got I hope he's meaning the loanees as well. Even with Mannone, King, and Brady signed we'd still be down 1 or 2 players, especially with Hobbs out til Xmas.
     
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  10. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    oh dear. at least premier tiger put a bit of humour in his reply. imo, it will be tom cairney who goes. complete waste of a shirt. problem is will anyone want him ?
     
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    agreed. someone would have to offer silly money for us to consider selling McLean. but that just might be Brighton as CMS has gone right off the boil :shocked: or has CMS been ringing Hull City ? :shocked: :shocked: how about a swap for TC and OJ Simpson then ?<whistle> well if you dont try you dont get.
     
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    could be but i'm guessing current economic climate means more (decent) players without clubs. so they apply for new jobs.
     
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  13. hu7tiger

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    Didnt nicky say he knew the players that he wants in since jan and has to act quick before other clubs get there first.
     
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    If they had offered £4m, I'm sure we would have taken it, unfortunately, they offered £1.5m.
     
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    I reckon Paul green at derby will be near the top of the list. Of course mannone and/or jakupovic will be priority too.
     
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    I am aware of two good players who indicated they would like to join us, obviously there may be more, but I'm not aware of them. One was Sharp in January, but unfortunately the money involved was too much, particularly with regard to wages. The other I'm not going to name, as he's available on a free in the summer and something might well happen with him. There's also Mannone, who we're already aware is open to a permanent move, though that one's obviously down to the fee that Arsenal demand.

    As has been discussed on here several times, there are some good free agents available this summer, so I don't see the aim of spending little on fee's as necessarily being an issue(as we'll be looking at loans too). The big issue remains getting the historic poor contract players off the books, I suspect if we can find homes for McShane, Ghilas and Oli, life will get a whole lot easier for Nick.
     
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  17. bum_chinned_crab

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    We knew how many games we had. That's when a manager rotates his squad and brings in players with significant Premier League experience who hadnt even been on the bench. If the players had hit a wall, then it's only one person's fault.
     
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    Little harsh that on Nick. I would argue that if Nige hadn't wasn't money, on the likes of Adebola, and the transfer fee for Mclean, then we might actually be able to bring in a goalscorer
     
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    You mean someone like Simpson? Sat twiddling his thumbs... Or the likes of Garcia, Oli and Cairney, regulars during the Premier League years?

    I'm not saying we'd have won the games that I'm proposing these played in, however it wouldve given the first choice XI the rest they desperately needed as admitted by Adam, and given us a better chance of beating the likes of Pompey and Cov.
     
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  20. Jaggro

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    I don't see how that's harsh on Nick, or how it's relevant to the fact that we didn't bring in a goalscorer, that's not the point.

    We had 9 matches in March, and he failed to rotate shattered players. I mean, at the time I was complaining about him starting the likes of Stewart and Fryatt when they continued to be ****.. but if he didn't feel the same way then he could at least have dropped them for fatigue.

    We were playing very poorly, so even if Simpson, Garcia, Oli etc weren't bagging hattricks in training then they still should have had a chance ahead of players who simply wanted to go to bed rather than play football.
     
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